# Dev Fund 2024: Community Poll & Discussion Megathread

**URL:** <https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/dev-fund-2024-community-poll-discussion-megathread/44527>\
**Category:** Governance\
**Created:** [May 4, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/dev-fund-2024-community-poll-discussion-megathread/44527 "2023-05-04T16:08:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/dev-fund-2024-community-poll-discussion-megathread/44527/135 "2023-05-10T22:21:35Z")

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> - Zcash’s Dev Fund it’s the way to ensure people dedicated to securing, developing, maintaining and evolving Zcash devote to it full-time with no conflict of interest issues and without putting the project in a second or third (or N-th) place.

Lol. The project already is in last place.

> - Zcash’s Dev Fund it’s the way to ensure: A virtuous economic system can flourish out if it, as it has been proven. Zcash participation since Dev Fund has been growing in a diverse and global form.

Where has this been proven?

> [@pacu](#):
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> - Zcash’s Dev Fund it’s the way to ensure that operations can be reliable and trust-worthy. Daily operations can’t be ran by “grants” or “proposals” nor “committees”. Decisions have to be made on the spot, very unique and demanded human resources have to be dedicated to these operations.

Daily operations? Such as the decision to fund and hire more engineers to fix the spam problem? _Oh_. _Right_…

> [@pacu](#):
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> - Zcash’s Dev Fund it’s the way to ensure Zcash counts with the best professionals it can get, and those professionals are fully committed to Zcash’s benefit and success. Good will, best effort contributors can’t supply the workforce needed by continuous operations with worldwide 100% uptime. Reality won’t wait for Good Will contributors Joe or Mary to be able to put down their kids to bed, log off from work, put laundry in the washing machine and brew some coffee to work on Zcash. Full-time, globally distributed teams are needed.

It’s essential to acknowledge the valuable contributions made by people like @hanh, who developed YWallet as a side project before receiving any funding. This example demonstrates that passionate community members can still make a significant impact on the project even without being full-time employees.

> [@pacu](#):
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> - Zcash’s Dev Fund it’s the way to ensure that Zcash can afford a worldwide community that secures the ecosystem and generates a sense of safety to its users all across the globe. Teams can be put together that work 24/7 and evolve to be up to date with state-of-the-art tech and keep the project alive and thriving in the limits of human knowledge as it currently is. Teams like these, are very demanded by the market. Other projects will capture these teams if Zcash can meet on-par retributions to labor such as career, aspirational, emotional and economical goals.

🙄 It’s literally already been happening **with** the dev fund:

- dYdX
- bluesky
- whatever privacy thing henry is working on

> [@pacu](#):
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> - Zcash’s Dev Fund it’s the way to ensure that Zcash can be self-sovereign and not susceptible to capture by corporations, capitals, governments, States or other powerful entities of the geopolitical space.

??? [Shielded Labs: An Independent, Non-US Organization - #18 by aquietinvestor](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-labs-an-independent-non-us-organization/43855/18)

I get that this dev fund literally is your lifeline (as long as ECC is your employer), but it’s easy to see through the platitudes.

E: Exaggeration  
C: Contradiction  
C: Collapse

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