# Flypool/Bitfly Miner Centralization **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining\ **Created:** [April 10, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194 "2018-04-10T03:10:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![root](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/root/32/4864_2.png) [@root](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/root)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/61 "2018-04-13T01:44:22Z")
I’m also still getting higher Sol/s and what seem like higher payouts. Just to clarify, Zecproxy doesn’t lower latency, but it does reduce the number of connections making http requests. This saves bandwidth and should be more efficient, especially for miners with more than 10 rigs and speeds that are less than a fiber connection. Essentially your miner will connect to a LOCAL proxy server, the proxy server connects to the pool and distributes work to each connected miner. If you connect to a non-local proxy server the benefit is lost. I’ve set one up before but it was proprietary and ended up giving me less Sol/s, so I decided it was either too slow or unfairly taking more fee shares. I haven’t tried Zecproxy yet, but will be testing in the next few days after I get a nanopool baseline. Hopefully it doesn’t make a difference that this is implemented in JS rather than Go or Python. I’ll report back once it’s tested and up. ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/62 "2018-04-14T00:15:17Z")
I switched too, lets see how it does ---
**Author:** ![CitricAcid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@CitricAcid](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/CitricAcid)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/63 "2018-04-14T06:55:42Z")
I switched from FP to NP, my 24 hours will be up in 6 hours, but so far it looks like an increase ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/64 "2018-04-14T14:44:11Z")
Initially it seems as though the number of rejected shares has decreased I also recieve jobs more frequently, perhaps something to do with the higher difficulty target Interesting ---
**Author:** ![CitricAcid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@CitricAcid](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/CitricAcid)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/65 "2018-04-15T04:52:38Z")
maybe some of the people in “lets talk about asic’s” with rigs, IF they are on FP, should switch too. They say they don’t want centralization but don’t mind giving it to FP ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/66 "2018-04-15T14:46:45Z")
After the first 2 payouts, it does appear more profitable ---
**Author:** ![root](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/root/32/4864_2.png) [@root](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/root)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/67 "2018-04-15T15:09:00Z")
I’m pretty confident saying now that Nanopool pays at least 5% compared to Flypool for the exact same hardware. That is also with 3x the latency. What’s going on Flypool? Get a little too greedy? ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/68 "2018-04-15T15:57:05Z")
I wonder about the difficulty. Logically, more difficult Shares are worth more but harder to find with low powered mining equipment > [@Zcash Flypool Difficulty](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-flypool-difficulty/14147): > > Trying to understand the difficulty settings a little more. I know the default, is 2000 mining on flypool using Claymore. Using R9 Fury’s From what I have read, and seen, the higher the difficulty is set the better the chance of return? So instead of running at default 2k I now have it set for 9k and after 12 hours of running it seems that I have increased my ZEC by 2 to 2.5 per month. Is there a better explanation concerning difficulty settings and its benefits? > [@ZCash Claymore changing difficulty](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-claymore-changing-difficulty/15112): > > Hi I use ZChash Claymore. I’d like to ask if there is anyway I could change the difficulty of mining? My bandwith does’nt keep up with all the data traffic when I download sth in the backgroung. [https://support.bitfly.at/support/solutions/articles/8000053679-changing-difficulty-](https://support.bitfly.at/support/solutions/articles/8000053679-changing-difficulty-) Nanopool share difficulty is static equal to 25600. So I guess potentially you could turn up the juice on flypool but they’ve got too heavy a hand anyways (even with the benefit of the doubt) Edit- yea, higher payouts in shorter increments :] ---
**Author:** ![root](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/root/32/4864_2.png) [@root](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/root)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/69 "2018-04-16T17:02:04Z")
The difficulty could be a small part of the issue but is it enough to count for 5-7%? It’s not worth trying it to find out at this point. I’ll stick with np. ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/70 "2018-04-16T17:37:22Z")
Same here, thats what the benefit of the doubt was for, could have something to do with it but goona stay too, like I said, too heavy that FP, plus I prefer Nano pools interpolated graph, just weird like that ---
**Author:** ![phakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/phakov/32/5359_2.png) [@phakov](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/phakov)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/71 "2018-04-16T21:02:14Z")
My main reason for leaving Flypool was that they have over a majority of the hashpower, absurdly so. If I see any more ZEC than I would have seen, great. I left to be responsible nonetheless. However, Flypool did have a cool feature and that is that it would email if a worker goes down. I wish Nanopool had that…if they do, please direct me to where to do it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![deviel141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f0a364/32.png) [@deviel141](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/deviel141)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/72 "2018-04-16T21:06:02Z")
nanopool have that… ---
**Author:** ![TeemoRS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6bbea6/32.png) [@TeemoRS](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/TeemoRS)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/73 "2018-04-17T00:00:16Z")
Swapping a couple rigs over… for science ---
**Author:** ![belgarion84](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/belgarion84/32/10277_2.png) [@belgarion84](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/belgarion84)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/74 "2018-04-17T00:18:10Z")
As stated…Nanopool has that feature. Check their documentation: T-addr(dot)rigname(fwd slash)email address in your config. Your email address also serves as your settings adjustment password. ---
**Author:** ![root](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/root/32/4864_2.png) [@root](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/root)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/75 "2018-04-18T16:19:30Z")
After several days I can confirm that I’m making at least an additional 5% over Flypool (closer to 7% right now). Miners interested in profits should switch to nanopool. ---
**Author:** ![Hannibal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hannibal/32/12866_2.png) [@Hannibal](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Hannibal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/76 "2018-04-18T16:52:58Z")
I’m on supernova at the moment I’d like to try out nanopool but isn’t the minimum payout 1 coin? Because when I was on flypool I set my payouts to every 0.1 which took a little under 2 hours before the difficulty increase… ---
**Author:** ![root](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/root/32/4864_2.png) [@root](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/root)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/77 "2018-04-18T17:01:37Z")
Nanopool min is 0.01 and max is 10. If supernova is working you and you think they are being honest I would stay there. I think it’s only Flypool that is undercounting shares. ---
**Author:** ![Hannibal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hannibal/32/12866_2.png) [@Hannibal](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Hannibal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/78 "2018-04-18T17:15:39Z")
i was on flypool when i started mining about a year ago but I too feel there’s some funny business going on over there… ---
**Author:** ![Hannibal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hannibal/32/12866_2.png) [@Hannibal](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Hannibal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/79 "2018-04-18T17:30:27Z")
I swapped to nanopool I’ve been mining on it for about 10 mins now or so but when i try to go to stats page on my miners all i get is “Remember: to add your account to the database you should find at least one share” ---
**Author:** ![root](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/root/32/4864_2.png) [@root](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/root)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194/80 "2018-04-18T17:33:15Z")
It updates every few minutes. There is a hard refresh button as well. You won’t see accurate shares for a few hours until the PPLNS system has a baseline. You should see accurate Sol/s in \<= 15 mins. [Previous page](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/flypool-bitfly-miner-centralization/28194.md?page=5)