# Funding a Cannabis Retail Start-Up **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Grants\ **Created:** [July 13, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/funding-a-cannabis-retail-start-up/42509 "2022-07-13T23:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 10
**Author:** ![nullius](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/nullius/32/20935_2.png) [@nullius](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/nullius)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/funding-a-cannabis-retail-start-up/42509/10 "2022-07-14T18:11:33Z")
**A headline question for the community: Is ZEC _money?_** Is ZEC something valuable, which you treat as valuable? Do you expect for others to value ZEC at market? How do you handle _money?_ * * * > [@noamchom](#): > > Depending on the proposal amount, i think this should be funded. Lets not fool ourselves about whether or not this qualifies considering that last year we payed a guy $5,000 to go on a parachuting trip that yielded a choppy 45 second video That sort of whataboutism is an argument that Zcash development-funding seigniorage has been frivolously, profligately wasted and dissipated in ways that I find alarming. It is an argument that I should have spent the past five years devoting hours of my limited lifetime to following every tortuous Zcash drama, and complaining very loudly about waste and misdirection of funds. **It is an argument that I should start doing so forthwith.** It is also an argument that I am stupid for _buying_ ZEC, instead of dreaming up ways to get free ZEC for nothing on the ZEC-seigniorage gravy-train. Not an argument in favour of paying businesses to accept ZEC. * * * > [@noamchom](#): > > I also agree that a good point is raised here about the idea of boilerplating a retailer grants proposal and our general expectations about cost, delivery, features, etc > [@GGuy](#): > > Not commenting on this proposal specifically but I wonder if [@ZcashGrants](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/groups/zcashgrants) should setup a specific rulebook for a pool of funds for support retailers adopting Zcash in a similar way to how they have a seperate program for ambassadors. A set of rules where if all the criteria are met a retailer can ask for financial aid or POS support to help them adopt Zcash into their store. Something we can advertise to the greater population and give tangible steps to people wanting to accept Zcash. Wow, the conversation is moving ahead of me here. **This is a quote from a draft of a long post that I have been writing for days, where I had added this thread as an example supporting a bigger point about sales and self-confidence:** > [@nullius (DRAFT)](#): > > […discussion of how to make sales…] Self-confidence is infectious! On the flipside, **if you’re not sure whether or not others will want your product, then why _should_ they want your product? Your product probably sucks!** […] > > As the community veers towards POS as a gambit to try to pump the price back up, I can smell the cloying stench of desperation. And I am actually unsurprised to see [brand-new forum accounts ask funding for unrelated startup businesses](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/funding-a-cannabis-retail-start-up/42509/2), if only they accept ZEC (!). Well, why shouldn’t they expect that? The community is acting as if the currency is in such sad shape that seriously, you need to pay people to accept this miserable money. 🙄 > > Folks, I’ll tell you what: If grants start being passed out to businesses just to accept ZEC, then **I will personally offer my grant-application consulting services to any business that wants free ZEC.** Because I believe that _every_ business would benefit from accepting Zcash. I sincerely believe it. I can explain the reasons. I can make the case. And if one business can get paid to accept something that is beneficial to them, why shouldn’t everybody? > > On the other hand, because I _do_ believe that every business would benefit from accepting Zcash, I would prefer simply to explain to them why don’t yet realize they are the best and most loyal Zcashers. I need to finish that. With my constructive suggestions and proposals for Zcash. **Advertisement:** I am serious about the consulting services—paid by the hour, so that I can get something for my time here. **Do you want free funding for your business?** I will explain to you why Zcash is a perfect fit for your business. Then, when you are suitably impressed at what accepting ZEC can do for your business, I will get you in touch with people who will want to grant you freebie ZEC. Wheeee! * * * > [@Angst01](#): > > I think ZEC is a great fit for legal businesses that are discriminated against by the traditional banking system. I strongly agree with this, without regard to my positive or negative opinions of any particular business. The principle is similar to, and entwined with defending the freedom of speech. I would be happy to see the owners of such businesses pop up asking for technical support or advice about how to accept Zcash, or simply to let the Zcash community know in an appropriate, non-spammy manner that they are now accepting ZEC. When someone with no apparent prior history with Zcash creates a new forum account, and **in his very first post** announces his desire to get on the ZEC-seigniorage gravy train for an unrelated business, I see that differently. --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/funding-a-cannabis-retail-start-up/42509)._