# Mining Speculation/Strategy **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining\ **Created:** [October 5, 2017, 10:13am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126 "2017-10-05T10:13:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![wxxyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@wxxyz](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/wxxyz)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/144 "2018-02-06T00:40:26Z")
Can you explain - does your CPU get split into 2 devices or do you have 2 CPUs mining? Also, any indication of power usage on those? ---
**Author:** ![Hannibal](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hannibal/32/12866_2.png) [@Hannibal](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Hannibal)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/145 "2018-02-06T02:47:48Z")
The program is nicehash miner its the older one the new version 2.0 looks way different… ---
**Author:** ![CitricAcid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@CitricAcid](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/CitricAcid)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/146 "2018-02-06T03:08:56Z")
it spilt the cpu into two separate ones, when you run both at 100% NH can’t handle it, when you run just one it works fine but at only 50% ---
**Author:** ![wxxyz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@wxxyz](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/wxxyz)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/147 "2018-02-06T04:39:20Z")
Sorry, still not quite sure I understand. If you add just one to NH, then it can’t handle it at full load? So you added the CPU as 2 ‘half’ CPUs so that each would run? ---
**Author:** ![Morinic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Morinic](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Morinic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/148 "2018-02-06T14:43:51Z")
Another update on GPU pricing and shortage. Ingram Micro is now showing for almost all GPU’s an ETA of 12/31/26. I am sure that this is their way of keeping people from calling in for updates but it is across the board. Also, some wholesale prices are almost $150+ over MSRP. Here’s to hoping the bloodbath shakes out some weak knees. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/2X/3/31076cf84aa1858b911c57d906443b24ca4d2e04.png) ---
**Author:** ![Uche32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/uche32/32/11569_2.png) [@Uche32](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Uche32)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/149 "2018-02-06T15:13:24Z")
the ETA is just a standard value they set. quite like linux starts always at the 01/01/1970 ---
**Author:** ![Morinic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@Morinic](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Morinic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/150 "2018-02-06T15:55:37Z")
The ETA yesterday for some was 2/9/18 up towards 3/16 or later giving some indication of expected delivery. Their new “standard” is 2026 giving no hope for delivery if that date were true. They are just trying to scare off buyers b/c they are, IMO, overwhelmed with inquiries. The last time I called in they would only accept backorder inquiries on 3 models before they told me to call back. ---
**Author:** ![dbfusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@dbfusion](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/dbfusion)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/151 "2018-02-06T16:05:08Z")
zcash now is most profitable to mine on what to mine and I am getting less now . I kinda liked it when it was not on top . ---
**Author:** ![garcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@garcher](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/garcher)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/152 "2018-02-06T18:33:06Z")
Every time I check the hash rate of Flypool, I just cringe. I take a .25 payout and with it constantly going up I wonder when it will be unprofitable to mine. ---
**Author:** ![garcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@garcher](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/garcher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/153 "2018-02-21T13:00:48Z")
Just watched a video where they demo the NVIDIA Titan V mining ZCash. 748 Sol/s out of the box. The best part is it’s half the power usage of a GTX 1080 ti. The worst part is the card cost $2999 from NVIDIA. It is a good preview to what the Volta chips can do. ---
**Author:** ![banet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/banet/32/8863_2.png) [@banet](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/banet)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/154 "2018-02-21T18:17:18Z")
Right. With OC and software optimization the Titan V has already reached 1050 Sols/s at an efficiency of 5.1 Sols/watt. See more data at [https://ba.net/zcash-eth-nvidia-mining-os/building-your-first-mining-rig.html#gpu](https://ba.net/zcash-eth-nvidia-mining-os/building-your-first-mining-rig.html#gpu) ---
**Author:** ![phakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/phakov/32/5359_2.png) [@phakov](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/phakov)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/155 "2018-02-21T18:26:22Z")
At least if the price keeps dropping, the difficulty _should_ go down…fwiw. It’s become one of those situations where if you didn’t get into mining before the end of last year, you’ve mostly missed the boat unless you want to pay out the a$$ to get into it. ---
**Author:** ![garcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@garcher](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/garcher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/156 "2018-02-21T18:36:50Z")
I had dinner with a colleague last night who is doing lite mining with his idle card. I told him I got into in July of last year. I also told him how much I make a day doing it. He was impressed with my setup. @banet 1050Sols/s makes me want to buy one now. Having a 7 card rig of those would probably only take a while to payoff but totally worth it. ---
**Author:** ![CitricAcid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@CitricAcid](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/CitricAcid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/157 "2018-02-21T18:41:10Z")
> [@garcher](#): > > Having a 7 card rig of those would probably only take a while to payoff but totally worth it. @ current pricing roughly 26 months ---
**Author:** ![garcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@garcher](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/garcher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/158 "2018-02-21T18:55:39Z")
If 13 months is all it takes then I just need to find $21k for the 7 card rig. For the moment I want to find the $3k to start the rig with. The question is will the consumer model high end Volta cards have as much hash power as the Titan V. ---
**Author:** ![CitricAcid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@CitricAcid](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/CitricAcid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/159 "2018-02-21T19:08:29Z")
Sorry I typo’d its 26 months at current pricing, not 13 ---
**Author:** ![phakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/phakov/32/5359_2.png) [@phakov](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/phakov)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/160 "2018-02-21T19:13:18Z")
I look to balance power consumption vs GPU price vs hashrate. It’s my personal opinion that the 1060 3gb card balances those variables the best (for Zcash mining). With that card you get 275 h/s for what used to be 225 bucks (said angrily) and uses about 100W. There are few cards that will give you 1+ hash per dollar. Now I think that’s impossible unless you reach back into the used market, but all those older cards are power pigs. ---
**Author:** ![garcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@garcher](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/garcher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/161 "2018-02-21T19:19:49Z")
That’s closer to what I thought. I was estimating 2 years. ---
**Author:** ![garcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@garcher](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/garcher)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/162 "2018-02-21T19:26:48Z")
Before the GPU market went insane, my plan was to build about 10 rigs of GTX 1060 6gb. I’ve found that there is not much difference in the output between the 3gb and 6gb. It’s about 25Sols/s. I’m thinking of redoing my strategy and do GTX 1050ti for the moment. The cards are still a little high, but the payback time is better. ---
**Author:** ![phakov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/phakov/32/5359_2.png) [@phakov](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/phakov)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126/163 "2018-02-21T19:50:22Z")
I have a rig with 1050ti’s. They use about 68 watts and do ~170sol/s. They were 150 bucks…prolly 600 now…wtf?! [Previous page](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/mining-speculation-strategy/22126.md?page=9)