# Moderation feedback

**URL:** <https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371>\
**Category:** Meta\
**Created:** [August 17, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371 "2023-08-17T12:42:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/135 "2025-02-26T21:59:03Z")

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> [@HHIROSHIMA](#):
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> the other times when I was censored for no reason and banned for 1 week.

1. You were suspended for a week for breaking the [Code of Conduct](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/faq) that you agreed to abide by when you chose to create an account here.

Specifically:

> Examples of unacceptable behavior include:  
> Trolling and insulting or derogatory comments.

and

> Please do not:  
> Go Off-Topic: Derailing topics to a different subject other than the intent of the threads original post

1. A second thread by you was closed for the reason I already stated:

> [@What a hell](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-a-hell/50403/5):
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> Both the posts in those screenshots already exist on this forum, if you want to debate it further use the existing thread. Creating a new thread like this so users can pile on to “shame” them for their opinions and free speech is unacceptable. Per the [CoC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/faq) please do not: Deliberately provoke arguments to cause unrest on the forum. Thread is closed.

But your account incurred no suspension at that time.

1. The good thing about this forum is that it’s members have the ability to flag things they feel are inappropriate or require a moderators attention. That is what has happened with this third post by you titled “Controversial Topics” wherein you decided to post content relating to CIA conspiracies and hermaphrodite children. This obviously has nothing to do with Zcash and is a deliberate attempt to push the boundaries of the rules on the forum. As such it was flagged three times by different forum members and was automatically hidden by the system. I agreed with those flags and the post remains removed.

2. Your last post “Since I have been censored here on the forum” wherein you created a brand new X account to cross-post your efforts to get yourself suspended by continuing to violate the rules. This is an obvious attempt to bully the moderators of this forum into not taking action against your account for fear that they may somehow be shamed on social media for enforcing the rules.

> [@HHIROSHIMA](#):
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> Are you guys from the CIA or the NSA and think that topics like this that are not censored on X need to be censored here?

1. This is not X. We have higher standards for discourse and want all Zcash users regardless of race, sex, background or political affiliation to feel welcome, respected and comfortable meeting at a neutral venue for everyone to discuss things relating to Zcash and it’s ecosystem. The Zcash Foundation has a reasonable and clearly defined set of standards in the [Code of Conduct](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/faq).

Since it’s obvious that you do not intend to abide by the rules you agreed to by creating an account here, this being the fourth time you have violated them, your account is hereby permanently suspended.

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**Author:** ![daira](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/daira/32/43253_2.png) [@daira](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/daira)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/136 "2025-02-28T09:52:13Z")

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> [@Dodger](#):
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> Posts that violate the Code of Conduct may be deleted (or hidden until the poster edits the post).

When I was a moderator here, I used to edit the post myself to delete just the specific thing that violated the Code of Conduct, making it clear which parts were moderator-edited (usually only single sentences or paragraphs) and why. Frankly I think that was a better approach. It obviously requires a greater degree of trust that moderators will do this correctly, which is a downside, but it avoids the issue of people not knowing what has been deleted or hidden and coming away with a sense that some amorphous kind of censorship is being implemented.

On the other hand, it does lead to moderators being more visible, and for that to work there needs to be support for them. In the end my assessment that other moderators just didn’t have my back (about people normalizing fascist dogwhistles, of all things, which I was 100% right about) was what led to me resigning from that role.

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**Author:** ![Michae2xl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/michae2xl/32/37337_2.png) [@Michae2xl](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Michae2xl)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/137 "2025-03-02T15:46:15Z")

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Hi! Please, can someone approve my post, but why?

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/3X/3/5/353ad12e371ab414fd3ec128ffdb6b0b86494521.png)

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/138 "2025-03-02T17:02:54Z")

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@Michae2xl  
Sorry about the hold up, it had a few of keywords that spammers use so it got stuck in the filter. All good now.

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**Author:** ![ryan.taylor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/ryan.taylor/32/44336_2.png) [@ryan.taylor](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/ryan.taylor)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/139 "2025-03-07T14:12:50Z")

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Hi @Shawn 👋 A couple of clip makers are having trouble posting links on the ZconVI forum topic. They get an error that says: Sorry. You can’t include links in your posts. (see screenshot below)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/3X/c/3/c3fcd8f9ff7ce721d6f5a4481f0ba129782726e1.png)

Can you help us so clips posted for the ZconVI Clip Games can be posted on the forum via free2z links?

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/140 "2025-03-07T17:10:22Z")

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Can you DM me with who is having the issues and I can bump their trust level?

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**Author:** ![pacu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/pacu/32/15383_2.png) [@pacu](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/pacu)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/141 "2025-03-10T01:37:36Z")

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I need to post an update and it’s “pending approval”. Could you help?

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/142 "2025-03-10T01:41:16Z")

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Done,

Strange, should not have gotten stuck, let me double check the watched words list again…

Also, feel free to DM me any issues rather than posting in the feedback thread.

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**Author:** ![Michae2xl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/michae2xl/32/37337_2.png) [@Michae2xl](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Michae2xl)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/143 "2025-03-31T12:27:14Z")

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Hi! It happened again.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![tokidoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@tokidoki](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/tokidoki)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 10:32am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/144 "2025-04-08T10:32:19Z")

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[@moderators](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/groups/moderators) You should be able to mute/ignore spams by going to the poster’s profile. Can you do this to users who intentionally hide their profile? This could be a great way for spammers to remove users’ choice from blocking their spams.

There are unfortunately some newcomers who intentionally spam to make good threads unbearable to read in whole.

Found an answer here: [Is it possible to mark a user as ignored if they have a hidden profile? - Support - Discourse Meta](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-it-possible-to-mark-a-user-as-ignored-if-they-have-a-hidden-profile/313814)

TLDR: you can ignore users who hide their profile by adding their username to the list here [https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/YOUR\_USERNAME/preferences/users](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/YOUR_USERNAME/preferences/users)

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/145 "2025-04-12T11:21:49Z")

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Sigh, so I wake up to 15 flags involving @daira @outgoing.doze and others.

Give me some time to sort this all out and read through the conversation… ☕

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**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/146 "2025-04-12T11:32:18Z")

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Morning! ☕

One thing led to another and things got a bit ugly indeed, but I believe everybody remained courteous.

For this reason I would kindly ask that all messages are unhidden because there are no particularly good reasons to hide them, and they are also important in understanding the motives and reasoning of the people involved.

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**Author:** ![tokidoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@tokidoki](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/tokidoki)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 11:54am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/147 "2025-04-12T11:54:04Z")

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Just want to out out there that I think outgoing.doze is a troll and I have muted him (for my own account). outgoing.doze have demonstrated great ability in asking already answered questions multiple times. I believe such act should be regarded as “derailing” conversations which violates the forum CoC.

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**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/148 "2025-04-12T11:55:55Z")

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Muting is a great feature and I encourage people to use it, even if that is against me. Censoring people is a completely different thing, that I believe is harmful to governance.

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/149 "2025-04-12T12:47:49Z")

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I understand that OutgoingDoze opinions regarding a “only Coin Holder voting is legitimate” stance is unpopular and some disagree with the assertion but in my opinion that alone doesn’t qualify the posts as going against the CoC to be completely removed from the conversation. I have disagreed with several of the flags

However, I believe @outgoing.doze is aware that their characterisation of theft and dismissal of core contributors opinions as irrelevant is inflammatory and likely to cause offense. I will remind them of the part of the CoC states:

> In the Zcash community we strive to go the extra step to look out for each other. Don’t just aim to be technically unimpeachable, try to be your best self. In particular, avoid flirting with offensive or sensitive issues, particularly if they’re off-topic; this all too often leads to unnecessary fights, hurt feelings, and damaged trust; worse, it can drive people away from the community entirely. We expect that members will work towards collaboration, not conflict

Also,

> [@outgoing.doze](#):
>
> Muting is a great feature and I encourage people to use it, even if that is against me.

I get that you are a privacy advocate, but to facilitate this I would like to request that you take your profile off private mode (which is technically redundant anyway since your account is already anonymous) so users can simply click the mute button without having to jump through Discourse hoops to take advantage of the mute feature. This will also allow others like @paulbrigner to DM you.

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**Author:** ![daira](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/daira/32/43253_2.png) [@daira](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/daira)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/150 "2025-04-12T13:02:41Z")

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Thankyou for your moderation work and for a reasoned and fair outcome. I know moderation is not easy and often stressful.

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**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/151 "2025-04-12T13:09:39Z")

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> [@Shawn](#):
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> However, I believe @outgoing.doze is aware that their characterisation of theft and dismissal of core contributors opinions as irrelevant is inflammatory and likely to cause offense.

I understand what you are saying, I do want to make an effort to facilitate the dialog, but let it be clear that it is not easy. ECC and ZF keep implying that the transition from the founders rewards to the dev fund is legitimate, yet they had barely any stakeholder support. It’s basically debatable whether they have been lying to public on this matter, and if it’s debatable, it should be debated imho. But then if it can be considered that they have been lying, their use of the inflation is therefore potentially not legitimate. So sure, one can sugar coat it, or straight say that it is stealing. Nobody in here likes to read about theft and lies in the community, I understand that. But maybe it’s more important to express hard realities and fix them than to be quiet about it.

Maybe we could all work towards a better relationship between each others? Maybe we could, I don’t know, for example, have the interpretation method of the following vote known before the vote is taking place, so we do not look like a banana republic. Now that would be a step in the right direction. Let’s make things legitimate going forward, what about that?

**edit** - adding very relevant quote:

_“The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum — even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.”_ ― Noam Chomsky

> [@Shawn](#):
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> I would like to request that you take your profile off private mode (which is technically redundant anyway since your account is already anonymous)

Have you considered that you are misreading my motive here? It is only redundant if all I would be looking for is to hide my account details. Only, that’s not the case. I am in private mode because almost everything I have to say is about governance and better expressed publicly, and likewise I prefer my critics to express themselves publicly than to me directly, be it good or bad. I’m happy to exchange privately with some people but it won’t happen on this forum where those exchanges are not E2EE.

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/152 "2025-04-12T13:23:02Z")

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> [@outgoing.doze](#):
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> Have you considered that you are misreading my motive here?

I don’t believe I’m misread. My primary point was that by having the profile private users can’t easily utilize the mute function. Getting DMs are only a side benefit.

But as others have stated, there is a way to do it, albeit unintuitive:

> [@Moderation feedback](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/144):
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> [@moderators](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/groups/moderators) You should be able to mute/ignore spams by going to the poster’s profile. Can you do this to users who intentionally hide their profile? This could be a great way for spammers to remove users’ choice from blocking their spams. There are unfortunately some newcomers who intentionally spam to make good threads unbearable to read in whole. Found an answer here: [Is it possible to mark a user as ignored if they have a hidden profile? - Support - Discourse Meta](https://meta.discourse.org/t/is-it-possible-to-mark-a-user-as-ignored-if-they-have-a-hidden-profile/313814) TLDR: you can ignore user…

> [@Draft ZIP: Defer Lockbox Distribution and Extend the Current Dev Fund](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/draft-zip-defer-lockbox-distribution-and-extend-the-current-dev-fund/50757/16):
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> Ah, bliss. Discourse does not make it easy to Ignore/block a user with a private profile, but you can do it by going to your own profile (https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/USERNAME/preferences/users), selecting “:fast\_down\_button: Expand” on the top-right, then “:gear: Preferences”, then the Users tab, then “+ Add” under “Ignored”.

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**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/153 "2025-04-12T13:26:10Z")

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> [@Shawn](#):
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> Getting DMs are only a side benefit.

It’s actually giving people a false sense of privacy. Even Facebook has E2EE because it’s such a basic necessity of private communication.

I’m happy to set my profile to public but, is there a way for me to prevent people from messaging me directly on this forum?

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**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/moderation-feedback/45371/154 "2025-04-12T13:29:03Z")

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Good point, let me look into it and I’ll get back to you.

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