# New equihash bitmain miner: Z11 **URL:** \ **Category:** Mining\ **Created:** [March 19, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971 "2019-03-19T07:58:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mantoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mantoz](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/mantoz)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/1 "2019-03-19T07:58:26Z")
Bitmain is going to sell a new equihash miner soon: the Z11. 135 KSols, 1420W Price seems to be about 1240$ > **[Bitmain Releases New Equihash Miner Antminer Z11](https://blog.bitmain.com/en/bitmain-releases-new-equihash-miner-antminer-z11/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=z11_031419&utm_content=launch)** > > Antminer Z11 is now pre-selling on bitmain.com and will start shipping shortly. Z11 offers a hashing power of 135 KSol/s, which is 3x that of Antminer Z9 What will happen to the ZEC price? ---
**Author:** ![CitricAcid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@CitricAcid](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/CitricAcid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/2 "2019-03-19T12:46:16Z")
IMO the price of ZEC has to do with the marketing by the Zcash company and the over all crypto market and nothing to do with what mines it. ---
**Author:** ![Uche32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/uche32/32/11569_2.png) [@Uche32](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Uche32)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/3 "2019-03-19T12:52:52Z")
in which period did they test this machine? because I didn’t saw any hashrate spikes in the last months. ---
**Author:** ![boxalex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/boxalex/32/14872_2.png) [@boxalex](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/boxalex)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/4 "2019-03-19T13:24:26Z")
Actually there are 3 spikes if you check the hashrate graph: 1.) From 10th December 2.083G - 12th December 3.0072G (My guess here is hte Innosilicon A+ “test”) 2.) 15th January ~2.3G - 19th January ~2.9G (My guess that here the A+ arrived at the new owners which put them online in this period. 3.) 26th January ~2.66G - 1st February 3.13G (My guess is that here the Z11 went into “testing”. 4.) current hashrate dropping could be that the Z11 is put offline and prepared for shipping That hashrate is falling after each spike is normally having mind that most the time ZEN is more profitable to mine than ZEC and a lot of switchers are on equihash… Just my guess analyzing the hashrate chart… ---
**Author:** ![Uche32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/uche32/32/11569_2.png) [@Uche32](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Uche32)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/5 "2019-03-19T13:37:35Z")
thank you for that @boxalex you’re right ---
**Author:** ![nec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d9b06d/32.png) [@nec](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/nec)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/6 "2019-03-19T14:13:29Z")
seems nobody cares about people buying innosilicon for 5000usd, with actually worse hashrate. this mad situation, when actual zcash community completely detached from people who make the gameplay, is what you get, when you do not resist. P.s. my account was suspended, but im back. ---
**Author:** ![boxalex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/boxalex/32/14872_2.png) [@boxalex](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/boxalex)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/7 "2019-03-19T22:18:10Z")
@Shawn @root flagged the post for off topic, i’am not going to read only every single topic the asic resistance agenda again and again and again… ---
**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2019, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/8 "2019-03-19T23:35:06Z")
> [@boxalex](#): > > flagged the post for off topic I’m going to disagree with you on this one @boxalex . The thread is about a new ASIC so comments about ASICs are to be expected. Let’s just try to keep from going over the same old thing again that has been discussed at length in other topics @nec ---
**Author:** ![boxalex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/boxalex/32/14872_2.png) [@boxalex](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/boxalex)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/9 "2019-03-20T07:33:43Z")
> [@Shawn](#): > > I’m going to disagree with you on this one @boxalex . The thread is about a new ASIC so comments about ASICs are to be expected. I fail to see how the post is in any relation of the topic subject. Neither it’s mentioned, nor compared, nor anything, it’s just one of the 10000’s rants we have readed allready. Just as a sidenote, i would have flagged the post as well if it was about the new gpus for example. I’am just tired to read in every single topic this asic bla bla bla bla which turns literaly every single topic into an asic-anti-asic discussion… ---
**Author:** ![nec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d9b06d/32.png) [@nec](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/nec)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/10 "2019-03-20T08:05:19Z")
boxalex, dear, my posts are nothing, compared to your pro asic poems, which you wrote, about 10 months ago. i can find some best cuts, where you predict positive impact of asics, but im sure you still remember it all, and there is no need. regarding z11. there is no need to compare z11 and innosilicone for 5000usd. the difference is huge, and noone except asic producers decide what will happen next. this situation i predicted 10 months ago, when you wrote about positive impact of asic on security, decentralization and lower power consumption. thanks to people who voted for no-resistance - right now zcash mining looks like: “bitmain suddenly announced new miner, now your miner bought week ago for 5000usd is rubbish worth 700usd at best… its too bad, you should’ve known better” question - miners located in which country have the most advantage of situation we have? question - situation will get better or worse? ---
**Author:** ![boxalex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/boxalex/32/14872_2.png) [@boxalex](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/boxalex)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 8:08am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/11 "2019-03-20T08:08:59Z")
Like always, here we go with: - derailed topic which seems the strategy of the notorious anti asic guys today - personal attacks which shouldn’t be on the forum at all - anti asic agenda which should be in the “Let’s talk about asics” topic ---
**Author:** ![nec](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d9b06d/32.png) [@nec](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/nec)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/12 "2019-03-20T08:17:10Z")
sorry, i bought first zcash in 2017. i joined this community when it was asic-resistant all the way. the way im writing about asic cons is nothing to disturb, compared to your poems about asic pros. in this z11 thread, i point out the offset created by any new asic. i mean we have to care about miners community. its what gets this coin going. and for me it is devastating that someone invested 5000 usd with best intentions, and suddenly his investment lost 80% value, overnight. im asking you - situation will get better or worse? what you think, my pro asic boy in new shoes? ---
**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 10:03am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/13 "2019-03-20T10:03:46Z")
> [@boxalex](#): > > Like always, here we go with: > > - derailed topic which seems the strategy of the notorious anti asic guys today > - personal attacks which shouldn’t be on the forum at all > - anti asic agenda which should be in the “Let’s talk about asics” topic In this case **you** are now going way off topic and personally addressing nec and thier past posts rather than sticking to the actual topic of the Z11 or addressing necs points about the rapid depreciation of ASIC hardware. If you don’t want to respond to nec because you don’t like thier opinions that is fine, you don’t have to. But that doesn’t make it ok to flag topics just to try to shut down another users comments. Nec has already been suspended for derailing topics and I will be forced to do the same for you @boxalex If both of you don’t have anything nice to say about each other then I suggest you choose not to comment on the others posts. ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 11:33am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/14 "2019-03-20T11:33:21Z")
> **[Bitmain’s New AntMiner Z11 Reportedly Sold Out in 20 Minutes](https://ethereumworldnews.com/bitmains-new-antminer-z11-reportedly-sold-out-in-20-minutes/)** > > BitMain has released a new ASIC efficient and power miner, the AntMiner Z11. Said to be efficient and three times more powerful than the predecessor, Z9, miners would now deploy them and pare losses. ---
**Author:** ![CitricAcid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@CitricAcid](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/CitricAcid)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/15 "2019-03-20T14:04:03Z")
Nice of them to increase the price on the sold out item ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/2X/e/e5b8905ab3226bbe97e33f5f58262dabba8a1ea8.png) ---
**Author:** ![johnwisdom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/johnwisdom/32/5836_2.png) [@johnwisdom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/johnwisdom)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/16 "2019-03-20T15:46:43Z")
> [@CitricAcid](#): > > sold out item The “sold out item” “” ---
**Author:** ![local\_miner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@local\_miner](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/local_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/17 "2019-03-20T16:14:00Z")
ha **“sold out”**. Such a funny word. ---
**Author:** ![mantoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mantoz](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/mantoz)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/18 "2019-03-20T23:06:52Z")
Well, I’m not paranoid but selling out all the stock in 20 minutes since the announcement is a little strange to me. Maybe the stock was VERY limited OR Bitmain did not sell at all any Z11. The price change on a sold out item seems even more weird. Anyone in the forum was able to buy a Z11 ?? ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/19 "2019-03-20T23:58:20Z")
Or thats just how the Internet works ![Screenshot_2019-03-20-17-57-39-1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/2X/d/d05f1590459a6dde3836ee3a4995e44151c443c3.png) ---
**Author:** ![local\_miner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@local\_miner](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/local_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2019, 5:15am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971/20 "2019-03-21T05:15:07Z")
I managed to place an order for one Z11 at $1366. [Next page](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/new-equihash-bitmain-miner-z11/32971.md?page=2)