# Proposal for a Community + Coin Holder Funding Model

**URL:** <https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/proposal-for-a-community-coin-holder-funding-model/50332>\
**Category:** Governance\
**Created:** [February 12, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/proposal-for-a-community-coin-holder-funding-model/50332 "2025-02-12T22:45:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/proposal-for-a-community-coin-holder-funding-model/50332/155 "2025-04-28T21:27:08Z")

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> [@joshs](#):
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> Governance does not happen through non-binding polls.

> [@aquietinvestor](#):
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> As Josh correctly points out, governance doesn’t happen through non-binding polls **alone**.

(highlight mine)

In the same sentence you say that he’s right, but immediately proceed to correct him by adding the word “alone”. Clearly, with and without that word, imply very different realities.

Anyway, indeed. A little AI to help us out:

> The statement “Governance does not happen through non-binding polls” is **partially accurate but oversimplified**.
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> While non-binding polls lack direct enforcement mechanisms, they often play significant roles in governance:
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> - **Non-binding polls frequently influence policy decisions** despite their advisory nature, as elected officials may face political consequences for ignoring clear public sentiment
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> - **Many referendums are technically non-binding** but carry strong political weight that effectively shapes governance outcomes. The UK’s 2016 Brexit referendum is a prime example—legally non-binding but treated as politically binding
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> - **Consultative processes form a legitimate part of democratic governance** in many systems, where public input through non-binding mechanisms informs official decision-making
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> - **Modern governance often operates through “soft law”** mechanisms that lack formal enforcement but still effectively guide behavior through political pressure and social norms
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> More accurately, governance operates through a spectrum of mechanisms with varying degrees of enforceability, with non-binding polls and consultations playing a complementary role alongside formal binding decisions.

Referendums are indeed an absolutely excellent example to completely shatters your argument @joshs. People in charge can technically ignore the outcome of a referendum, but at great cost to their reputation and the trust of electors.

That’s exactly what should be happening here, and that’s exactly what I have recommended.

> [@joshs](#):
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> I can’t imagine a scenario where the core devs at ECC do something incongruent with community sentiment.

Yet you’ll never define “community sentiment”. How was that community sentiment that led to the creation of Ycash? I suppose they didn’t “sentiment” too much in the same direction as you did they. But it’s ok you had 0.1% stakeholder participation to gauge that sentiment, so it must have felt legitimate I guess.

Oh I’m so tired of the non-sense, but I can feel the wind of change and that’s all I need to keep me going.

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