# Shielded Support for Ledger Hardware Wallets (NanoS+, NanoX) **URL:** \ **Category:** Applications\ **Created:** [February 28, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113 "2023-02-28T01:16:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/199 "2023-11-07T16:14:16Z")
> [@hanh](#): > > The point here is that the current structure makes Ledger feel they have to work with the ECC/ZF and other organizations (including the ZCG) are not legit. Exactly. This is the perpetual risk to Zcash as it currently exists. Two major organizations act as the gatekeepers of the protocol/ and of the “recognized” interfaces for technical work with other crypto organizations (like Ledger, Trezor, Binance, et al) ---
**Author:** ![pkr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/pkr/32/29938_2.png) [@pkr](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/pkr)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/201 "2023-11-07T16:25:25Z")
> [@jelly5649](#): > > That’s a great example of how to say I don’t understand anything about ZFND/ECC without saying I don’t understand anything about ZFND/ECC. Act like a company, get treated like one. Everything else is theater. Also, if you are going to go down the rabbit hole – how about you do a report on the affiliations of Least Authority and the Wilcox family? ---
**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/203 "2023-11-07T17:48:52Z")
> [@jelly5649](#): > > yet I haven’t seen any preferential treatment either; For 1, Zingo Wallet, and its _~hand waving conspiracy theorist~ seemingly indiscriminate_ funding. That if not an obvious red flag, is at the minimum a flagship case-study needing further investigation. The communities generous funding of more than 6 different wallet products, that all seek to do the same thing and serve the same user base, in a broad sense should be a red flag (regardless of any familial or immediate social relations to Zooko, et al in leadership roles at Bootstrap/ ECC/ ZF). What business logic for a project like Zcash could justify the splitting of talent, focus, funding, and marketing across so many copy-cat projects? I’m all for the ecosystem growing & sustaining many wallet products, but I’m staunchly opposed to over-funding them all with the precious, finite block reward treasuries. ---
**Author:** ![pzh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@pzh](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/pzh)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 7:57am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/205 "2023-11-08T07:57:05Z")
If anything, the market cap rather indicates that the market does not really trust ECC/ZF to develop this project into a meaningful direction. The market is shouting that ECC/ZF should listen more to the users, but ECC/ZF seem to be deaf. I say this very respectfully : even brillant, well-intentionned people can be deaf. ---
**Author:** ![Dodger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/dodger/32/3021_2.png) [@Dodger](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Dodger)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/207 "2024-01-10T14:23:04Z")
The Zondax app will be a new, separate, distinct app from the existing one. ---
**Author:** ![zkcroc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zkcroc/32/26962_2.png) [@zkcroc](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zkcroc)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/208 "2024-01-10T21:28:02Z")
@Dodger do you have any insight into how long this will take to get through? When I have a look at the ledger airtable platform, Zcash sits in an “uncategorised” column > **[Airtable | Everyone's app platform](https://airtable.com/appIHCUneslDfKjXu/shrqrpH9y9VRorS4J/tblw7wsOQj5Fb2UzA)** > > Airtable is a low-code platform for building collaborative apps. Customize your workflow, collaborate, and achieve ambitious outcomes. Get started for free. ---
**Author:** ![gottabeJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@gottabeJay](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/gottabeJay)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/209 "2024-01-10T22:56:49Z")
The ‘Uncategorized’ Zcash app is Hanhs app. The Zcash Ledger App is Zcash Shielded and is in the ‘To be released’ section. ---
**Author:** ![zkcroc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zkcroc/32/26962_2.png) [@zkcroc](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zkcroc)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/210 "2024-01-10T23:19:50Z")
Ah nice, we will see it soon then 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zerodartz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zerodartz/32/26722_2.png) [@zerodartz](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zerodartz)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/211 "2024-01-11T09:53:02Z")
how will it look like if user has funds in current Zcash app and they want to use the new Zondax app? is it seamless or will they have to do something/ create new wallet? maybe the devs can answer that. ---
**Author:** ![alexpros87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@alexpros87](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/alexpros87)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/212 "2024-01-11T10:04:49Z")
so nice, patience is key. sooo bullish on zcash ---
**Author:** ![zkcroc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zkcroc/32/26962_2.png) [@zkcroc](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zkcroc)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/213 "2024-02-16T06:02:13Z")
Still waiting on this… When this does drop, hopefully there is some fan fare from ledger’s side, as this thing has been in development hell for years ---
**Author:** ![dismad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/dismad/32/18432_2.png) [@dismad](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/dismad)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/214 "2024-08-18T21:37:09Z")
> [@aquietinvestor](#): > > That’s another question that @Dodger would need to answer. My understanding of Ledger’s requirements is that they would want the ZF to “sponsor” an organization (i.e. submit the application, be the point of contact, etc.). > [@hanh](#): > > I think Ledger is OK with > > - an individual dev if the ZF acts as the point of contact > - or a company if the ZF acts as the point of contact @Dodger I still can’t figure out why Ledger is stalling and why this working solution has zero support from ZF. Why did we choose Zondax if they can’t get this done? Furthermore, Trezor “ran off” with partial funding with zero to show. Unacceptable. Why should the community have _any_ faith in future hardware grants? _Help me_, understand what is happening with this? ---
**Author:** ![SamsungLED](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SamsungLED](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/SamsungLED)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/215 "2024-08-27T20:12:21Z")
Mr @hanh, i want to ask if you know those (2) accounts you are following on GitHub: > **[warmice71 - Overview](https://github.com/warmice71)** > > $7tsZkLv1IcQENXgdn0l6M8uPYb. warmice71 has 80 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub. @tung240603 (followers & following) Also you recently starred the account: > **[AI0228 - Overview](https://github.com/AI0228)** > > I am Experienced AI & ML Engineer|| Full Stack Data Scientist with 6 years of experiences. - AI0228 Both accounts are reported to be linked with a recent investigation into suspicious activity on GitHub attributed to the Lazarus Group: hxxps://medium.com/coinmonks/suspicious-activity-in-github-associated-with-lazarus-group-200868dff910 I want to understand the logic behind following such accounts. Or in case you don’t know which accounts you follow. Could you answer, what led you to have certain activity with these accounts? What’s interesting about them? Or have you spoken to them? Anything? I’m not assuming anything, but I’m curious. Thank you! H ---
**Author:** ![hanh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hanh/32/27853_2.png) [@hanh](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/hanh)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/216 "2024-08-27T22:10:41Z")
no idea. they are unfollowed now. ---
**Author:** ![SamsungLED](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@SamsungLED](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/SamsungLED)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/218 "2024-08-27T23:09:53Z")
@hanh Have you followed any new accounts lately, or have you always had 0 following? Have you starred any new repositories ? Have you run any untrusted code locally? Given your skills and the projects you work on, you might be seen as a high-value target. Sorry for the questions but your activity seemed quite curious to me Thanks for answering ---
**Author:** ![hanh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hanh/32/27853_2.png) [@hanh](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/hanh)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/219 "2024-08-27T23:36:56Z")
There is a bot that checks dependencies on GitHub and everything is built from source from their servers. What I run locally has no effect on the ywallet releases. ---
**Author:** ![artkor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/artkor/32/28573_2.png) [@artkor](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/artkor)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:08am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/220 "2024-10-08T10:08:45Z")
Hello @hanh ! I can’t find any more Ledger documentation on the YWallet website. Are there any problems with this use case? [https://ywallet.app/advanced/ledger](https://ywallet.app/advanced/ledger) ---
**Author:** ![hanh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hanh/32/27853_2.png) [@hanh](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/hanh)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 10:39am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/221 "2024-10-08T10:39:20Z")
it should work using an old version. Nothing has changed in the protocol since last year. ---
**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/222 "2024-10-08T12:56:09Z")
What about DB compatibility w/ downgrading? They should rebuild instead of attempting to import a currrent one, correct? ---
**Author:** ![hanh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hanh/32/27853_2.png) [@hanh](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/hanh)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113/223 "2024-10-08T14:10:25Z")
Yes, new databases aren’t supported by old versions. [Previous page](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shielded-support-for-ledger-hardware-wallets-nanos-nanox/44113.md?page=9)