# Staked Poll on Zcash Dev Fund Debate

**URL:** https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/staked-poll-on-zcash-dev-fund-debate/34846
**Category:** protocol
**Created:** [August 31, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/staked-poll-on-zcash-dev-fund-debate/34846 "2019-08-31T19:03:07Z")
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### Author: ![sonya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/sonya/32/9518_2.png) [@sonya](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/sonya)
#### Post date: [January 24, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/staked-poll-on-zcash-dev-fund-debate/34846/205 "2020-01-24T22:24:26Z")

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Fwiw I agree with @boxalex, I had actually forgotten that I even proposed the idea because I wrote it off after early commenters hammered home the downsides.

> [@amiller](#):
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> These threads have been long, but I don’t think any of the criticisms have been dismissed, instead they’ve all been acknowledged as valid criticism.

I don’t think this is worth much. To use an absurd and extreme example, if I tell you that I want to drive my motorcycle over a cliff, and you say, “But you’ll die,” and I say, “I acknowledge that your criticism is valid,” and then still drive over the cliff, have we accomplished anything? Maybe _something_, but it wasn’t very useful.

Likewise, if I said, “No I won’t, because I’ll sprout wings!” — well, the mere fact of having offered an explanation doesn’t make it convincing. It feels like being gaslit to push back and have the counterparty act puzzled. “But I told you that I’m going to sprout wings!” Yeah, tell me that however many times you want, I’m not gonna believe it simply because you said so.

Explain a mechanism that makes sense. Provide your reasoning. There is no substitute for _convincingly demonstrating good judgment_. Like, there just isn’t. Persuasion is really important, and _how_ attempts at persuasion are conducted tells you a lot.

I’m not even against using coinholder voting as a signal (perhaps obvious from OP in this thread). My position on the staked poll at this point in time is “it’s your damn motorcycle, go ahead if you insist” but I _hate_ being brushed off by people who pretend they aren’t brushing you off.

How many times did @sarang ask a direct, straightforward question and get vague non-answers? He had to ask how many times, with others echoing the question, before getting a [straight answer](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/community-sentiment-polling-results-nu4-and-draft-zip-1014/35560/442)?

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