# The Last Swing of The Stick **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [August 16, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/the-last-swing-of-the-stick/45354 "2023-08-16T18:40:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 70
**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/the-last-swing-of-the-stick/45354/70 "2024-01-09T17:51:56Z")
Friendly Reminder, To all of the disgruntled, frustrated, cat-herding, thought leaders… I created this thread a long time ago, to serve as our shouting board/ open air group-therapy thread. > [@Zcash User Research & Engagement (ZURE), Phase 1](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-user-research-engagement-zure-phase-1/45820/19): > > Exactly. The evidence is out in the open and very obvious. Have a look at active wallet counts, transaction values, transaction counts, coin valuation trends, DeFi/ NFT TVL, etc etc of well established 2014-2016 era projects. The successful equation appears to be whatever these projects have been up to: Litecoin, Ethereum, Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Monero, arguably Ethereum Classic & Bitcoin Cash (this list is without even getting into all of the post 2018 altcoin projects that have also grossly o… --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/the-last-swing-of-the-stick/45354)._