# What is up Next?

**URL:** <https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [August 15, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803 "2022-08-15T18:38:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/1 "2022-08-15T18:38:56Z")

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I understand Zcon3 consumed a ton of energy from the core ECC, ZCG, and ZF staffers (and I personally want to acknowledge: **That is the best set of media** we’ve ever received to the Zcash ecosystem. **Ever** ), but this is a thread to ask the general question.

What is up Next? To my understanding we’re the tribes wondering in the desert from the old testament.

Is the work to transition to Proof of Stake the next big milestone on the schedule?

Have we got interim product deliveries of interest?

Do we anticipate that the Posterity Fund debate and deployment will happen sooner than PoS?

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**Author:** ![pkr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/pkr/32/29938_2.png) [@pkr](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/pkr)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/2 "2022-08-15T21:36:37Z")

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QEDIT and hopefully YWallet with a ZECPages integration 😉

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**Author:** ![gottabeJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@gottabeJay](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/gottabeJay)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/3 "2022-08-15T23:46:26Z")

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I hope PoS and the Posterity Fund are not going to eclipse development on recursion, more efficient trial decryption, faster sync for lightwallets, faster verification for zcashd, general greater efficiency, better wallets, better UX…

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**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/4 "2022-08-17T19:08:54Z")

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Great additional topics and they’re exactly what I hope this thread can shine light on.

What sort of priority and-or timelines do your list of items have?

Now that you mentioned it I think the implementation of Recursively Proofed ZKPs is probably next up for delivery (I recall an ECC engineer mentioning that Halo sets up the foundation for RZKP but doesn’t actually implement the feature). @ebfull @therealyingtong

On the publicly facing side of this, from Chris Tomeo at Zcon:

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/3X/e/3/e369da1115b572359ecbee32233ab9d86c6efd27.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/5 "2022-08-26T19:20:37Z")

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Is the end of this year the end of the project?  
@nullius check your Mayan calendar

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/3X/1/3/13e164c177ffa286393a7208d17ba92567a96626.png)

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**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/6 "2022-09-29T16:27:55Z")

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Bouncing this thread with a request for any of you who are aware to add sub-link responses to deliverables in 2022 (are there any?) and any other items of interest that Zcash community has coming down the pipeline.

Related to the prior Zcash: Schedule snapshot - Did 5.3.0 deliver?

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**Author:** ![Autotunafish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/autotunafish/32/7827_2.png) [@Autotunafish](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Autotunafish)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/7 "2022-09-29T19:02:43Z")

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Not yet but you can always check the release page [Releases · zcash/zcash · GitHub](https://github.com/zcash/zcash/releases)

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**Author:** ![Milton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/milton/32/21375_2.png) [@Milton](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Milton)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/8 "2022-09-29T19:25:51Z")

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> **[ECC roadmap calls for focus on wallet, proof of stake and interoperability -...](https://electriccoin.co/blog/ecc-roadmap-calls-for-focus-on-wallet-proof-of-stake-and-interoperability/)**
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> It has become clear that the best way for ECC to contribute to the Zcash community over the next three years is to release an official ECC wallet on top of a highly interoperable Zcash protocol that leverages proof-of-stake consensus.

As far as I know the main objectives for the two next years are

1. New Wallet

2. Proof of Stake

3. Interoperability

2 and 3 are pretty connected, as they pretty much have a choice between either becoming a Cosmos zone or an Avalanche subnet.

My impression is that recursive ZKPs are not scheduled for the near future since they are prioritizing the PoS transition. Some of the smaller items JRGB mentioned will probably be done in parallel.

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**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/9 "2022-09-30T14:29:53Z")

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How far delayed is 5.3.0 and who’s job is it to maintain the content on:

> **[Schedule - Zcash](https://z.cash/support/schedule/)**
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> About This Chart This Zcash release schedule represents the current plan for upcoming zcashd releases as well as historical release \[…\]

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**Author:** ![lawzec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/lawzec/32/38094_2.png) [@lawzec](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/lawzec)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/10 "2022-09-30T20:27:05Z")

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not trying to speak for any project, but… am i nuts … (well abstaining from the obvious)… but why isnt ycash the messaging layer considering particularly the spam issues with zec

id love to see some front facing reworking of the architecture that tries to compete with signal etc.

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**Author:** ![lawzec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/lawzec/32/38094_2.png) [@lawzec](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/lawzec)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/11 "2022-09-30T20:33:24Z")

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i mean, to give more color to my now 2 year long spiel about how ycash needs to be apart of the zcash funding system, does not anyone of you find it hilarious how we are reading “H1ghLy C0nf!d3n1aL” from elon and jack discussions via text messages?

CMON!

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**Author:** ![lawzec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/lawzec/32/38094_2.png) [@lawzec](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/lawzec)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/12 "2022-09-30T20:51:56Z")

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please pay attention foundation

> [@Censorship on forums re: political speech](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/censorship-on-forums-re-political-speech/37480/36):
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> Fwiw i think the ideal way to handle such threads is to put them in an off-topic / minimally-moderated forum category or something that are not displayed by default but you can opt in to them if you want. It then serves the same purpose as the “avoid divisiveness” moderation policy without outright deleting the thread. I don’t know if the forum software supports this anyway

> [@YWallet & Warp Sync](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/ywallet-warp-sync/42620/7):
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> I’ve mostly ignored Ycash and Ywallet this whole time, but now actually I’ve been using Ywallet primarily since a few weeks after Orchard. Nighthawk and Unstoppable couldn’t sync on my phone, and ZecWallet Lite stopped working on the laptop I use as a phone in a pinch Dom Joly style, and I haven’t been able to update zcashd on my server running old linux old glibc. (ZWL is now OK again since recent updates past couple weeks.) I haven’t read the op proposal carefully, just needed to catalog this…

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**Author:** ![str4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/str4d/32/64_2.png) [@str4d](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/str4d)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/13 "2022-09-30T23:44:50Z")

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> [@noamchom](#):
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> How far delayed is 5.3.0

It’s been a few weeks delayed as we’ve been simultaneously working on the mobile wallet SDKs while chasing down and fixing `zcashd` OOM issues. I think we’ve got the main `zcashd` problems fixed now (I just identified and fixed a significant performance issue that was affecting wallet scanning during `-reindex`), and we’re aiming to get a 5.3.0 release out later next week (assuming nothing else comes up).

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**Author:** ![tokidoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@tokidoki](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/tokidoki)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/14 "2022-09-30T23:57:28Z")

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> [@lawzec](#):
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> ycash needs to be apart of the zcash funding system

Out of topic but I bet even the folks at Ycash Foundation hate this suggestion 🙃

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**Author:** ![lawzec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/lawzec/32/38094_2.png) [@lawzec](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/lawzec)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/15 "2022-10-01T00:04:04Z")

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They do. @hloo has explicitly stated such.

I guess I’m just a fan of the shielded love notes.

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**Author:** ![hanh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hanh/32/27853_2.png) [@hanh](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/hanh)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/16 "2022-10-01T00:55:04Z")

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> [@Milton](#):
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> My impression is that recursive ZKPs are not scheduled for the near future since they are prioritizing the PoS transition.

@str4d Could you explain how or if recursive ZKP are going to help scability? I thought they would reduce verification time but trial decryption would still be necessarily for all actions.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2022, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-is-up-next/42803/17 "2022-10-03T15:06:58Z")

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Thanks HanH for bouncing that topic, I have been under the perception that part of the drive for Halo was that with a trustless setup, the protocol can now ben enhanced with notably less complexity (no more 300 person ceremonies needed). And that the Bounty #1 following would be the recursive zero knowledge proof solution. (@ebfull is that work still in R&D? I recall seeing that you’ve already got the solution)

Is this blog page obe  
[Halo: Recursive Proof Composition without a Trusted Setup - Electric Coin Company](https://electriccoin.co/blog/halo-recursive-proof-composition-without-a-trusted-setup/)

Other Background:  
[Episode 123: Halo with Sean Bowe and Daira Hopwood from ECC - ZK Podcast (zeroknowledge.fm)](https://zeroknowledge.fm/123-2/)
