# Zcash Community Voting Authorities **URL:** \ **Category:** Retroactive Grants\ **Created:** [October 3, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323 "2025-10-03T13:13:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dismad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/dismad/32/18432_2.png) [@dismad](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/dismad)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/1 "2025-10-03T13:13:12Z")
I submit this application on behalf of all the voting authorities and ask for the coinholders support. Thank you for consideration. šŸ›” šŸ¦“ ā™„ > > > \### Terms and Conditions > > \- \[x\] I agree to the \[Grant Agreement\](https://9ba4718ā€¦c-5c73-47c3-a024-4fc4e5278803.usrfiles.com/ugd/9ba471\_6ff6db4095fd4c4ba21babec361e927e.pdf) terms if funded > \- \[x\] I agree to \[Provide KYC information\](https://9ba4718c-5c73-47c3-a024-4fc4e5278803.usrfiles.com/ugd/9ba471\_7d9e73d16b584a61bae92282b208efc4.pdf) if funded above $50,000 USD > \- \[x\] I agree to disclose conflicts of interest > \- \[x\] I understand that this grant program is only eligible for completed work, as it is a retroactive grant program. Applications for planned or partially completed work will not be considered. All completed work will be verified and accepted by its intended users or their representatives, who will confirm that the outputs meet the required quality, functionality, and usability before the work is listed as an option for Coinholder voting. > \- \[x\] I agree that for any new open-source software, I will create a CONTRIBUTING.md file that reflects the high standards of Zcash development, using the \[\`librustzcash\` style guides\](https://github.com/zcash/librustzcash/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#styleguides) as a primary reference. > \- \[x\] I understand when contributing to existing Zcash code, I am required to adhere to the project specific contribution guidelines, paying close attention to any \[merge\](https://github.com/zcash/librustzcash/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#merge-workflow), \[branch\](https://github.com/zcash/librustzcash/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#branch-history), \[pull request\](https://github.com/zcash/librustzcash/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#pull-request-review), and \[commit\](https://github.com/zcash/librustzcash/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#commit-messages) guidelines as exemplified in the librustzcash repository. > \- \[x\] I understand all grants are valued in USD but will be disbursed in Shielded ZEC. I acknowledge and accept that disbursement amounts may fluctuate based on the ZEC/USD exchange rate at the time of payment. > > \### Application Owners (@octocat, @octocat1) > > @dismad > > \### Organization or Individual Name > > dismad > > \### Additional Team Members > > \`\`\`team-members.yaml > dismad > hanh > james\_katz > outgoing.doze > frankbraun > artkor > \`\`\` > > \### How did you learn about the Lockbox: Coinholder Retroactive Grants Program? > > Community Member > > \### Requested Grant Amount (USD) > > $26750 > > \### Category > > Retroactive Event Funding > > \### Project Summary > > Shielded coinholder voting will become a critical part of the Zcash community infrastructure and I believe a public goods bounty could help participation whilst futher decentralizing the process. The new retroactive grant is perfect for this because the work was already completed. > > \### Project Description > > > Voting Authorities need to admin a server that runs hahn's vote server software as well as cometbft. Please see here for details and a video: > > https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/coinholder-polling-on-governance-and-funding/50812/8 > > > > > \### Technical Approach (how you did it) > > Using signal all individuals were on call running their instance of hahns zcash vote server + bft nodes fixing errors and hiccups along the way. Dismad additionally purchased a domain and hosted all elections publicly. All members helped answer questions in the community. > > \### Time Period of Work Completion > > See Proof of completion section for dates > > \### Total Budget (USD) > > 26750.00 > > \### Budget Breakdown > > \## Wages > > Factoring specialized skills needed + Community members stepping up for the betterment of the Zcash community + 1st mover advantage > > $250 / day > > Thus, > > \`\`\`markdown > @dismad @ 32 days = $8000 > @hanh @ 14 days = $3500 > @james\_katz @ 25 days = $6250 > @outgoing.doze @ 14 days = $3500 > @frankbraun @ 11 days = $2750 > @artkor @ 11 days = $2750 > \----------------------------------- > $26750 > \`\`\` > > \### Previous Funding > > No > > \### Previous Funding Details > > \_No response\_ > > \### Other Funding Sources > > No > > \### Other Funding Sources Details > > \_No response\_ > > \### Success Metrics > > So far no major issues have occured during our new shield voting process and the retroactive grant process is live > > \### Proof of completion > > > \## Test poll (3-31-25) 7 days > > https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/coin-voting-2-0-participate-in-a-test-poll/50560/7 > > @dismad > > \## Coinholder Polling on Governance and Funding (4-19-25) 14 Days > > https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/coinholder-polling-on-governance-and-funding/50812/18 > https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/coinholder-poll-voting-authority-coordination/50908 > > @dismad > @hanh > @james\_katz > @outgoing.doze > > \## Coinholder Poll to Ratify the Retroactive Grants Program (8-23-25) 11 Days > > https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-closed-coinholder-poll-to-ratify-the-retroactive-grants-program/52013 > > @dismad > @frankbraun > @artkor > @james\_katz > > > \### Conflict of Interest Disclosure > > \_No response\_ > > \### Community Forum Posting > > \- \[x\] I understand it is my responsibility to post a link to this issue on the \[Zcash Community Forums\](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/about-the-retroactive-grants-category/52106) after this application has been submitted so the community can give input. I understand this is required in order for the community to discuss and vote on this grant application. Note: If you are unable to post on the forum (for example, due to new user restrictions), please leave a comment below, and we will adjust your posting permissions. ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/2 "2025-10-03T19:09:55Z")
Against, because it took me at most 2h to get a server anonymously on Njalla and configure it. What I did was definitely not worth USD$3500. Against, because it just made me happy to have an opportunity to play a small part in the governance process. I expect we have many people that would do the same here given clear instructions (itā€™s not rocket science). Instead of having discussions on how to do all this on Signal, a good guide and a public chat would have much better served that purpose. I would gladly do it again personally, but we need to establish a voting schedule because life keeps me busy in other ways as well. Against, because I definitely do not think we should pay wage level compensations for such a simple operation. A small stipend to compensate for the server rental fee should suffice. ---
**Author:** ![hanh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/hanh/32/27853_2.png) [@hanh](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/hanh)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 10:44am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/4 "2025-11-14T10:44:32Z")
> [@Polling Open: Coinholder-Directed Retroactive Grants Program (Q4 Round)](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-open-coinholder-directed-retroactive-grants-program-q4-round/53110/24): > > Also, whatā€™s the process to decide whoā€™s voting authority on votes? If it would be a free service (as it should be), then it wouldnā€™t matter but apparently (ā€œQ5: [Zcash Community Voting Authorities](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323)ā€) some crazy amount of money is being requested for doing almost nothing. I personally took on this role once so I know thereā€™s hardly anything that justifies those amounts. There are arguably very large amounts requested elsewhere too. I believe the process is to let the coin voters decide. ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 10:46am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/5 "2025-11-14T10:46:32Z")
> [@hanh](#): > > There are arguably very large amounts requested elsewhere too Oh my bad, letā€™s extract as much as possible then!! šŸ˜… ---
**Author:** ![james\_katz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/james_katz/32/26780_2.png) [@james\_katz](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/james_katz)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:27am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/6 "2025-11-17T04:27:07Z")
> [@Polling Open: Coinholder-Directed Retroactive Grants Program (Q4 Round)](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-open-coinholder-directed-retroactive-grants-program-q4-round/53110/24): > > being requested for doing almost nothing I guess you missed the countless day and nights we spent compiling, testing, debugging, sending PRs, recompiling, migrating from VPS services, meeting multiple times on zoom calls, and so on ā€¦ I respect and understand some of your points, but if this retroactive grant is approved, you can always donate you part (ideas: ZecFaucet, ZecHub) šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 5:44am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/7 "2025-11-17T05:44:01Z")
> [@james\_katz](#): > > I guess you missed the countless day and nights we spent compiling, testing, debugging, sending PRs, recompiling, migrating from VPS services, meeting multiple times on zoom calls, and so on If thatā€™s the case, and I donā€™t doubt you, it should not have been submitted the way it has been. As it is, you are creating a precedent for being compensated a lot of money just for running a binary, thatā€™s ridiculous. I would not have been against a compensation corresponding to getting the development of the governance system in place, quite the opposite as I am really thankful for that work. > [@james\_katz](#): > > I respect and understand some of your points, but if this retroactive grant is approved, you can always donate you part (ideas: ZecFaucet, ZecHub) šŸ™‚ Thatā€™s my intention, but I am hopeful this wonā€™t pass because of the bad precedent it would create. ---
**Author:** ![Tomas-M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/tomas-m/32/36472_2.png) [@Tomas-M](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Tomas-M)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:37am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/8 "2025-11-17T09:37:19Z")
I donā€™t really see any reason to save ~40 ZEC (from the minersā€™ taxation, the money which is not even yours) to diminishing the work of people who helped with the very same voting you are now using against themā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/9 "2025-11-17T09:38:55Z")
> [@Tomas-M](#): > > I donā€™t really see any reason Then read again my explanation, I have explained the reason. ---
**Author:** ![Tomas-M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/tomas-m/32/36472_2.png) [@Tomas-M](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Tomas-M)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:42am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/10 "2025-11-17T09:42:12Z")
I red it and I dont understand it. You are referring to precedent, but I see it differently. Each voter can make a new decision every time, so no precedent is being set. People are not stupid. They can judge for themselves, regardless of earlier voting outcomes. I am optimistic about this, really šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:56am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/11 "2025-11-17T09:56:59Z")
```auto @outgoing.doze @ 14 days = $3500 ``` Thatā€™s me here in this proposal. I would know how many minutes Iā€™ve spent on this. 14 days of doing nothing for $3500? Aside from setting the wrong precedent, itā€™s also disrespectful to put this proposal with invented numbers on the desk of stakeholders. edit: apologies @Shawn those last few messages donā€™t belong in this thread. Would you mind assigning those to the more appropriate one ( [Zcash Community Voting Authorities](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323) )? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Tomas-M](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/tomas-m/32/36472_2.png) [@Tomas-M](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Tomas-M)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 11:15am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/12 "2025-11-17T11:15:45Z")
Ah! I didnā€™t notice. So you voted even against yourself šŸ™‚ That is very interesting šŸ™‚ The grant application was submitted without your consent or approval? ---
**Author:** ![dismad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/dismad/32/18432_2.png) [@dismad](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/dismad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/13 "2025-11-17T15:21:38Z")
> [@Polling Open: Coinholder-Directed Retroactive Grants Program (Q4 Round)](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-open-coinholder-directed-retroactive-grants-program-q4-round/53110/7): > > I guess you missed the countless day and nights we spent compiling, testing, debugging, sending PRs, recompiling, migrating from VPS services, meeting multiple times on zoom calls, and so on ā€¦ šŸ‘ Weā€™ve put in a lot of work, perhaps more than the community can see. > [@Polling Open: Coinholder-Directed Retroactive Grants Program (Q4 Round)](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-open-coinholder-directed-retroactive-grants-program-q4-round/53110/12): > > Each voter can make a new decision every time, so no precedent is being set. People are not stupid. They can judge for themselves, regardless of earlier voting outcomes. I am optimistic about this, really This. Thanks for participating. > [@Polling Open: Coinholder-Directed Retroactive Grants Program (Q4 Round)](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-open-coinholder-directed-retroactive-grants-program-q4-round/53110/13): > > itā€™s also disrespectful to put this proposal with invented numbers on the desk of stakeholders. Couldnā€™t disagree more, Iā€™ll let the community decide who is disrepectful. Curious how you made a it point to state your disproval TWICE, in two seperate places, really driving it home I see. > [@Polling Open: Coinholder-Directed Retroactive Grants Program (Q4 Round)](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-open-coinholder-directed-retroactive-grants-program-q4-round/53110/24): > > some crazy amount of money is being requested for doing almost nothing. I personally took on this role once so I know thereā€™s hardly anything that justifies those amounts. The community should know @outgoing.doze couldnā€™t get their node to sync and dropped out early. Full disclosure. Pretty rich of you to claim this is easy šŸ‘Ž > [@Polling Open: Coinholder-Directed Retroactive Grants Program (Q4 Round)](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/polling-open-coinholder-directed-retroactive-grants-program-q4-round/53110/9): > > -----BEGIN ZCASH SIGNED MESSAGE----- > 20251117: 1 Yay; 2 Yay; 3 Yay; 4 Yay; 5 Nay; 6 Nay; 7 Yay; 8 Yay; 9 Nay > -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- > t1VydNnkjBzfL1iAMyUbwGKJAF7PgvuCfMY > H3RY+6ZfWUbzaaXxK8I42thf+f3tOrwKP2elphxAxq8tKypwJG4+V7EGR+sTWMZ5MFyvTQW8ZIV0yGU+93JTioA= > -----END ZCASH SIGNED MESSAGE----- vote confirmed. ā˜‘ My botton line is, I am super grateful for all vote authā€™s who: showed up, tried, and/or completed the elections. The work was done, and imho a small bounty seems warranted. ā™„ šŸ›” šŸ¦“ ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/14 "2025-11-17T15:45:02Z")
> [@dismad](#): > > The community should know @outgoing.doze couldnā€™t get their node to sync and dropped out early. And thatā€™s another false statement. Keep it up @dismad . I **initially** couldnā€™t get my node to sync because youā€™ve all worked on an unnecessary private Signal group, instead of releasing any kind of manual. Youā€™re just in the wrong all the way mate. ---
**Author:** ![dismad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/dismad/32/18432_2.png) [@dismad](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/dismad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/15 "2025-11-17T15:48:58Z")
The bigger point dozeā€¦ is its NOT easy šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/16 "2025-11-17T15:50:43Z")
I donā€™t know, it looked easy to me, I just didnā€™t have all the necessary details. But youā€™ve decided to work on a private chat, so now you canā€™t really prove much of anything; too bad I guess. ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/17 "2025-11-17T15:56:53Z")
At the end of the day, all the community needs to know is this: ```auto @outgoing.doze @ 14 days = $3500 ``` I can attest that you, @dismad, are just inventing numbers. Thereā€™s nothing behind those ā€œ14 daysā€ aside from maybe 45 minutes of work. Thatā€™s very unprofessional and disrespectful to stakeholders. ---
**Author:** ![dismad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/dismad/32/18432_2.png) [@dismad](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/dismad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/18 "2025-11-17T15:59:50Z")
Of course I am, this has never happened before? We are trying something new, and my _idea_, was to reward those who stepped up, you included. Im sorry you dont want to be include in that. We can agree to disagree but I do appreciate your vote none-the-less. ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/19 "2025-11-17T16:02:08Z")
> [@dismad](#): > > and my _idea_, was to reward those who stepped up, you included. Im sorry you dont want to be include in that. your idea was to get a big payday, youā€™re the one benefiting the most out of this proposal. You are trying to gaslight the community, itā€™s just not working out right now. ---
**Author:** ![dismad](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/dismad/32/18432_2.png) [@dismad](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/dismad)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/20 "2025-11-17T16:10:59Z")
> [@outgoing.doze](#): > > your idea was to get a big payday No, my idea was to try something new to help find new members of the community who may want to step up in the future. The idea came from the neighbouring community (Namada) who also did a similar thing. I can assure you I didnā€™t do all this extra work through 2025 because I thought I was going to get extra money for it. Lets move on, you already voted no :), and to those who feel differently I apprecaite the support. ---
**Author:** ![outgoing.doze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/outgoing.doze/32/37355_2.png) [@outgoing.doze](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/outgoing.doze)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323/21 "2025-11-18T15:12:15Z")
> [@dismad](#): > > my idea was to try something new to help find new members of the community who may want to step up in the future. Step 1: publish documentation Step 2: see if it works without creating financial incentives [Next page](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-community-voting-authorities/52323.md?page=2)