# Zcash: The Most American Cryptocurrency (?) by Zcash Media **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [January 22, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135 "2025-01-22T18:49:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/1 "2025-01-22T18:49:09Z")
[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/original/3X/0/5/05beac7e30962617e78e005461f2dd129b81af56.jpeg "Trump wants to support American crypto. He should start with Zcash.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_gUZg00wXI) Cheers to @David_Heisenberg and the ZM team! This is far and away my favorite content from your team, and in my opinion, it is also the most relevant to the current crypto/ socio/ political landscape. ---
**Author:** ![aquietinvestor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/aquietinvestor/32/34528_2.png) [@aquietinvestor](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/aquietinvestor)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/2 "2025-01-22T19:15:10Z")
This is great! Well done @David_Heisenberg and @37L! ---
**Author:** ![tloriato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/tloriato/32/33218_2.png) [@tloriato](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/tloriato)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/3 "2025-01-22T19:50:28Z")
Nice! Fees like the title needs to be a bit more…attractive? “Zcash: America’s Cryptocurrency” or things like this. MrBeasty 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/shawn/32/187_2.png) [@Shawn](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/Shawn)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/4 "2025-01-22T20:03:14Z")
🔥🔥 timely video ---
**Author:** ![treasonous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/treasonous/32/12711_2.png) [@treasonous](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/treasonous)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/5 "2025-01-22T20:15:45Z")
Perfect timing!!! ---
**Author:** ![zancas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zancas/32/42011_2.png) [@zancas](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zancas)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:38am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/6 "2025-01-23T03:38:07Z")
I love the fact that I feel _enlightened_ every time I watch a @37L video. It seems to me that making content that is that clear and informative is a skilled craft. I’m grateful that I benefit from that skill. ---
**Author:** ![machinesunmachine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/machinesunmachine/32/27149_2.png) [@machinesunmachine](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/machinesunmachine)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/7 "2025-01-23T04:01:12Z")
Just chiming in to say that this is so well done. ---
**Author:** ![conradoplg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/conradoplg/32/42878_2.png) [@conradoplg](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/conradoplg)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 12:50pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/8 "2025-01-23T12:50:27Z")
It’s been sad seeing so many people simping for Trump - People complain that Zcash is too centralized - Trump makes an insane comment about favoring “American crypto” - Zcash is now “American crypto” ---
**Author:** ![tloriato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/tloriato/32/33218_2.png) [@tloriato](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/tloriato)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 12:55pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/10 "2025-01-23T12:55:48Z")
Agree, politician fandoms are the worst. But I think the point there was that Zcash is American because it represents the American values that we all share here (freedom and privacy). I think that message is good. And I think we need to be aware that we need attention mindshare in order to be able to, eventually, continue to fund privacy advancements. ---
**Author:** ![conradoplg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/conradoplg/32/42878_2.png) [@conradoplg](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/conradoplg)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/11 "2025-01-23T13:04:28Z")
ah yes, freedom and privacy, invented by USA ---
**Author:** ![tloriato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/tloriato/32/33218_2.png) [@tloriato](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/tloriato)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/12 "2025-01-23T13:07:58Z")
Your words, not mine 🙇‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![noamchom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/noamchom/32/20269_2.png) [@noamchom](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/noamchom)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/13 "2025-01-23T14:44:30Z")
'Freedom and Privacy, from USA, delivered bwo Raytheon Predator drone strikes and the NSA surveillance apparatus" ---
**Author:** ![zancas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zancas/32/42011_2.png) [@zancas](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zancas)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 2:52pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/14 "2025-01-23T14:52:57Z")
I agree. I am glad this video does **not** do that. I like how it very clearly states that having a single-point of failure managing a cryptocurrency (whether that’s a state or a company) is antithetical to the idea of a cryptocurrency. I like how the video clearly explains that the language of politicians trying to “own” cryptocurrencies is incoherent, and needs analysis. ---
**Author:** ![zancas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zancas/32/42011_2.png) [@zancas](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zancas)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/15 "2025-01-23T14:55:12Z")
The video doesn’t say this @conradoplg it says the reverse, it says: “[USA, invented by privacy and freedom](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_gUZg00wXI&t=524s)” I’m not a fan of USA, but I do think it has some nice hacks in its kernel that are worth reusing. If we recall that classical Athens was a patriarchical slave-state, should we then conclude that Democracy is worthless? Should we say that Athens wasn’t a Democracy? All that having been said @37L I won’t be able to share this video with many of my friends because the initial image is of Trump, and that will end rational analysis. ---
**Author:** ![conradoplg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/conradoplg/32/42878_2.png) [@conradoplg](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/conradoplg)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/16 "2025-01-23T15:48:33Z")
> [@zancas](#): > > I like how it very clearly states that having a single-point of failure managing a cryptocurrency (whether that’s a state or a company) is antithetical to the idea of a cryptocurrency. It states that but then immediately doubles-down on “sure, Zcash is american” > [@noamchom](#): > > 'Freedom and Privacy, from USA, delivered bwo Raytheon Predator drone strikes and the NSA surveillance apparatus" That sums up much more eloquently whatever I was trying to say in this topic ---
**Author:** ![zancas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zancas/32/42011_2.png) [@zancas](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zancas)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/17 "2025-01-23T19:29:17Z")
Yeah… but the hack is that they’ve redefined “american” before that moment to mean “supports the 4th amendment”. Given the environment… do you have a better approach? There exists a discourse where the meaning of that term is being created… maybe that’s a discourse that we ought to contribute to? I think promoting that understanding of “american” could help a lot of people… maybe prevent a lot of unnecessary suffering, by helping people to cultivate a coherent Value… instead of being manipulated by fear-reactions into harmful behaviors. I think the goal should be to help people suffer less, from that perspective I think the video offers something. Maybe we can think of “american” as an implementation (with some bugs) of the abstraction that the 4th amendment describes? And when I say “some bugs”, I come from the perspective of a person who thinks that Snowden (and all non-violent drug offenders) should be pardoned right now. And the borders should be eliminated… etc. I understand how the video and language feels offensive, but I think the structure of the content deserves consideration. Maybe I am missing the real argument? I think the video is saying that “american” is just a way of saying “supports the 4th ammendment”. I think that’s a counter-narrative to some other definitions of “american” that might be woven into some stories that are concerning. ---
**Author:** ![HHIROSHIMA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@HHIROSHIMA](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/HHIROSHIMA)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zcash-the-most-american-cryptocurrency-by-zcash-media/50135/18 "2025-01-25T22:01:58Z")
You can see it that way even if it is not the case 🙃