# Zfnd.org blocks Tor

**URL:** <https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zfnd-org-blocks-tor/42476>\
**Category:** Zcash Foundation\
**Created:** [July 10, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zfnd-org-blocks-tor/42476 "2022-07-10T22:05:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![nullius](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/nullius/32/20935_2.png) [@nullius](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/nullius)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zfnd-org-blocks-tor/42476/5 "2022-07-11T21:47:47Z")

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P.S., @anon35140610, with apologies for the somewhat topic-drifting double-reply: I have a suggestion of something you may wish to discuss with the Tor people at Zcon3.

Famous is the fact that Bitcoin was created by a strongly pseudonymous developer, known only as “Satoshi Nakamoto”. Yet alas, obscure remains is the fact that **Satoshi was a Tor user.** I would not be surprised if the Tor people may be unaware of this; they would probably be thrilled to discuss it with Zcash people at a convention about the premier zero-knowledge privacy coin.

My source on this: [In 2013, theymos, the Bitcoin Forum’s administrator, said that](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178330.msg1869406#msg1869406) **“he [Satoshi Nakamoto] always used Tor, as far as I [theymos] can tell.”** That forum was [founded by Satoshi](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3) in late 2009, originally at [`www.bitcoin.org/smf/`](https://web.archive.org/web/20091215005450/http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/) before various URL changes; Satoshi did most of his circa-2010-era public activity there. I presume that theymos must have IP access logs from the Satoshi era. Accordingly, I take theymos’ statement as **authoritative primary-source historical information for documenting Satoshi as a Tor user.**

I have frequently cited that theymos post to push back against people who want to ban Tor users from cryptocurrency sites: **“So, you would ban Satoshi from cryptocurrency? 🙄”**

Similarly, I have frequently cited “Satoshi Nakamoto” as an incisive two-word argument rebutting those are against pseudonymous crypto-developers. It has been my standard argument for years. Sadly, it happened _again_ [right here on this forum only hours ago](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/what-made-me-change-my-mind-about-zcash/42212/5).

Please pass this along to the Tor people. For my part, I take it as additional evidence that [Satoshi cherished the same values, and shared the same goals,](https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770.msg8637#msg8637) as motivated the later work on [Zerocoin for Bitcoin, which begat Zerocash,](https://blog.lopp.net/zerocoin--zero-knowledge--infinite-anonymity/) which begat Zcash.

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