# Zingo Lab Viridian Isn't Hitting Finsight Milestone Two **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Collaborations\ **Created:** [October 2, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zingo-lab-viridian-isnt-hitting-finsight-milestone-two/45736 "2023-10-02T15:21:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zancas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zancas/32/42011_2.png) [@zancas](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zancas)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zingo-lab-viridian-isnt-hitting-finsight-milestone-two/45736/1 "2023-10-02T15:21:27Z")
As you may be aware, Zingo Lab Viridian has been focused on the performance, reliability, and usability of Zingo! We have finished porting [the ECC’s new method for handling private transactions more efficiently](https://github.com/zcash/incrementalmerkletree) and are currently testing it in experimental releases. In the last four months we’ve also: - added the `Basic Mode` interface to address user demand for a more intuitive experience - added emulation test infrastructure to handle previously undetectable errors in widely deployed platforms (like the Bad-Orchard-Bundle-Authentication bug) - extended our internal benchmarking utilities to allow performance measurement - expanded our offering to include a fully-supported desktop version of Zingo! - implemented new (zip317) fee policies to mitigate the “Mempool SandBlast” - expanded our user test and feedback activities We think we’ve provided significant value to the community, and we hope you’ll agree when you try out our forthcoming release! ---
**Author:** ![pkr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/pkr/32/29938_2.png) [@pkr](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/pkr)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zingo-lab-viridian-isnt-hitting-finsight-milestone-two/45736/2 "2023-10-02T20:26:53Z")
I’m confused. Is this a thread talking about not hitting a milestone you set or a self-praise post? > [@zancas](#): > > We think we’ve provided significant value to the community How is that even measured? ---
**Author:** ![JoakimEQ](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/joakimeq/32/27704_2.png) [@JoakimEQ](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/JoakimEQ)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zingo-lab-viridian-isnt-hitting-finsight-milestone-two/45736/3 "2023-10-10T11:44:43Z")
Basically it means that they did not hit their milestone dates as they specified in their grant application: > **[Authentic Financial Insight](https://zcashgrants.org/gallery/25215916-53ea-4041-a3b2-6d00c487917d/35346900/)** > > Check out Authentic Financial Insight in Zcash Community Grants Program Usually this means that the payment for that milestone will not be payed out unless it is delivered. I believe currently there is no penalty system for late delivery however. But someone probably knows better than me - if so, feel free to correct! ---
**Author:** ![zancas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zancas/32/42011_2.png) [@zancas](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zancas)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zingo-lab-viridian-isnt-hitting-finsight-milestone-two/45736/4 "2023-12-22T16:34:58Z")
That’s correct, we didn’t hit that milestone, and have been working on necessary adaptations to the real operating environment instead. We’ll be publishing some more detailed updates with information about what we’ve been doing, and proposals for what we’d like to build for payment. Since we didn’t deliver that milestone, we’ve received 0-ZEC from the ZCG. It’s been difficult to continue operating in this scarce funding environment, but we recognize that our suffering is shared. We’ve written a lot of quality code none-the-less. Given the radically changed landscape, since last February, we think it’s reasonable to ask for payment for what we built, instead of what we hoped to build without present day information. Again, the hard work we’ve done hasn’t cost the community _at all_ and won’t until we have a tangible result that we believe improves the lives of Zcash users. ---
**Author:** ![gordonesTV](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/gordonestv/32/45566_2.png) [@gordonesTV](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/gordonesTV)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zingo-lab-viridian-isnt-hitting-finsight-milestone-two/45736/5 "2023-12-24T16:55:40Z")
Thank you, @zancas It is important to keep the whole community informed about your progress. I know you are doing an incredible job. ---
**Author:** ![zancas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/zcash/user_avatar/forum.zcashcommunity.com/zancas/32/42011_2.png) [@zancas](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/u/zancas)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/zingo-lab-viridian-isnt-hitting-finsight-milestone-two/45736/6 "2024-01-28T16:05:34Z")
This is the end-user affecting work that we’ve completed instead: > [@ShardTree Zingo! 1.3.0](https://forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/shardtree-zingo-1-3-0/46704): > > Folks, it gives me great pleasure to announce Zingo! 1.3.0 is released. This release uses the ShardTree note commitment store to enable rapid witness updates. To end users this means a long awaited increase in sync performance. In addition to the core upgrade, we added 40% more tests of three different types, and onboarded more developers. We’ll be releasing again soon!