Money printing

I believe that most public blockchains today are living in a kind of illusion.
They are financial instruments, yet they lack tangible substance.
The cash flows they bring in from outside the system are, in most cases, not clearly defined.
Will they ultimately end up serving as bait for institutionalizing an AI-driven digital economic system?

At first, people refused to accept that these were financial instruments, but eventually the public did accept that reality.
Even so, they still do not feel like financial instruments or money to me.
Yet I operate a Zebrad node and own ZEC.
In that sense, I think human decision-making is less rational than we often imagine.

I believe that the structure of technology and the structure of data are decisive clues that shape the texture of an entire society.
I think the traditional, fully centralized client-server model is approaching its limits. And I do not mean only the technical architecture itself.
When the structure of technology and data shifts radically in one direction, political systems, economic systems, lifestyles, and even human relationships are transformed as well.
I have seen this pattern throughout history.
Just as the near-hegemonic religious authority of the medieval era was dismantled by the arrival of the printing press.
Most of the coins issued on public blockchains derive their value from the expectation that these networks will be used more extensively in the future.
There are transaction fees and staking rewards, but even the people paying those fees are often just other speculative traders.

Demand → price appreciation → more participants → more fees.

There is no real connection to the external economy.
Today’s crypto market is a world sustained by people floating within a collective imagination.
Its mechanism is fundamentally different from that of a corporation whose revenue comes from actual consumers.

Let us look at this through the same “bait” framework I used earlier.

In reality, this is not an unfamiliar pattern in history.
Do you remember the dot-com bubble? I was a teenager at the time.
I was simply enjoying a network connected through telephone lines without giving it much thought.
Many of you reading this probably remember that era as well.
Most investors lost money on the fiber-optic infrastructure that was built during that period.
Just like participants in today’s blockchain industry, they correctly identified where the future was heading.
But that was not the problem.
The infrastructure funded by those ordinary people with genuine early-adopter instincts was later acquired by capital at a fraction of the cost.
And as a result, today we download games such as PUBG on Steam and enjoy them with ease.

Viewed from this perspective, what public blockchains are creating may not be a decentralized monetary revolution.
Instead, they may be building a globally accessible infrastructure for the instant settlement and transfer of digital assets.
Traders on exchanges such as Binance, Coinbase, Kraken, and Upbit may be unintentionally paying for the construction of that infrastructure.
Yet the actual economic value created by that infrastructure may ultimately be captured not by coin holders, but by entirely different actors.

For example: AI service providers and agent operators, governments, issuers operating within regulatory frameworks such as Circle and Tether, or even institutions like the UN.
From an AI perspective, the picture becomes even clearer.

If AI agents are to exchange value automatically with one another,
they will need a financial settlement layer that can operate without direct human intervention while providing instant settlement and verifiable transactions.
The most realistic candidates for that role are likely to be Tether and certain L1 settlement layers.
And when that infrastructure is eventually absorbed into the AI economy, the narrative that value will automatically flow back to decentralized coin holders may simply evaporate.

The reason is simple.

We are not the ones who operate the system or define the standards.
That role belongs to the people who write laws such as the GENIUS Act and the CLARITY Act.
In the end, perhaps we are all holding scams, and what we are really paying for is a rehearsal for the world that is coming.

If the players in the blockchain industry take my perspective seriously, a different strategy is required. If they are merely content with being intoxicated by ‘money printing’ and have no real interest in what kind of world will unfold, or in the grateful outsiders who are putting money into their little code games, then they can just keep enjoying the present.
However, if they recognize the problem, a structural change is necessary—that is, if they are truly interested in decentralization.
To give you a hint: a ‘highly robust network’ is required. If so, what are the specific alternatives to achieve this? Let those who have read this thoroughly share their thoughts.

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People often make poor judgments when they are governed by their emotions. This is especially true when you feel you have lost to someone—in this case, at the hands of community members. It is understandable that you do not want to lose control. However, it would be beneficial to reflect on your actions after a few hours or a day has passed. This is so that you can become a better person.

Hello @the_zero,

Good way to start out in the community good topics and reply’s, really like it keep going. I read your post thoroughly my thoughts on this topic speaking from the founder of Nozywallet. That said, I don’t see this as inevitable doom or “all scams.” Zcash, and tools like NozyWallet offer concrete paths to address these issues through genuine privacy as a foundational feature, not a marketing gimmick. Privacy isn’t just a nice-to-have; it’s the prerequisite for real, trust-minimized economic activity in an AI-surveilled world.

NozyWallet is built specifically around Orchard shielded transactions on Zebra (zebrad), prioritizing full privacy by default with strong cryptographic security. It’s a Rust-based wallet (CLI, desktop, browser extension in progress) that doesn’t ship a full node but integrates cleanly with Zebra + lightwalletd for efficient, private operation fully. Zcash is ahead and why funding for true privacy applications is important for Zcash to drive real external cash flows, integrate or partner for privacy-preserving DeFi, payments, or remittances. Think shielded stablecoin bridges, private payroll tools, or merchant acceptance that pulls in fiat/real-world value without leaking data. This directly counters the “no connection to external economy” point. Just my thoughts on this great topic

hello dear @Lowo88,

I’m one of many who wish for ZEC to move forward. I am someone who recognizes the value of ZEC within the blockchain industry. It seems that ZEC’s technical goals are nearly complete. Therefore, I want to share a fundamental sense of critical awareness so that this hard-built foundation does not collapse. I do not come here looking for clues about ZEC’s price fluctuations, nor am I interested in the grants program. My motives are pure. As someone with little personal interest at stake, I would like to bring to public discussion ideas that can be of ‘direct’ help to this network, centering on you, the developers, and the enthusiasts. I hope that we, gathered here, can use this discussion to distinguish between what is more important and what is less important for ZEC now that its technical maturity is very high. Since you are a wallet application developer, there is one thing I would like to tell you. My view is that in the process of the traditional financial system absorbing blockchain networks, many projects will disappear. In Korea, for example, there is Samsung Wallet. I believe we need to observe this market from the perspective of the establishment and the groups that create regulations and set protocols—groups that are not ‘us’.

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Thank you for sharing your thoughtful perspective and for your genuine concern for ZEC future. It’s inspiring to see someone with a clear understanding of the technical achievements and a desire to contribute meaningfully to the network’s ongoing development.

Your emphasis on prioritizing what truly matters now that ZEC has reached a high level of technical maturity is very relevant. As developers and enthusiasts, it’s crucial that we focus on enhancing usability, security, and adoption, areas that can ensure ZEC remains a resilient and valuable asset in the evolving blockchain landscape. Your point about the traditional financial system’s integration and the role of established players like Samsung Wallet is insightful. Monitoring how regulations and protocols develop outside our immediate community will be key to positioning ZEC effectively within the broader ecosystem.

Let’s keep this dialogue open and collaborative, aiming to align our technical goals with strategic awareness of market and regulatory trends. Together, we can help ensure ZEC foundation remains strong and adaptable for the future.

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@Lowo88,

Aligning ZEC’s technical goals with market and regulatory trends is, as you said, very important. Through the CLARITY Act, the U.S. has clarified that coins issued on blockchains are not ‘money,’ but assets or commodities. Therefore, I have reached the conclusion that for ZEC to adapt to the market and regulatory environment, it must give up the narrative that ZEC is ‘money.’ I would like to hear your opinion on this.

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Wiktionary provides 8 definitions for the word money. Going by the third sense, most people rarely spend money:

Hard cash in the form of banknotes and coins, as opposed to checks, credit cards, or credit more generally.

The government is fighting a war on drugs, yet they never go after the drugstore. :person_shrugging: No, I don’t think legal definitions overrule the dictionary when it comes to using the word money.

@Zebraman

Dictionary definitions are nice, but they are like museum pieces. We are currently living in a real-world war, not a dictionary. Clinging to the dictionary definition of ‘money’ as just banknotes and coins is like standing with a bow and arrow while the enemy is firing missiles at you, just because you insist that ‘war’ should only be fought with swords and spears. I respect your dictionary definition of ‘money.’ But if regulators decide to label ZEC as a ‘risky speculative asset’ instead of ‘money,’ will that dictionary definition protect our value? No. In fact, the more we insist that it is ‘money,’ the harder they will squeeze us. The government doesn’t attack pharmacies during the ‘war on drugs’ because pharmacies have proven their social necessity. Are we currently treated as a ‘necessary pharmacy’ within the financial system, or are we being targeted as an ‘illegal lab’? While we annoy the powers that be by insisting on the word ‘money,’ we are missing the chance to show the world the true essence of our technology—our privacy and network strength. We can read dictionaries later. Right now, we need to survive and prove to the world that this technology is worth more than just being ‘money.’ That is why I suggest we strategically set aside the ‘money’ narrative and prepare for a bigger future.

No, I “insist we call it war” even when it is waged undeclared.

@Zebraman

I’m not talking about some abstract ideal; I’m talking about our living, breathing reality. We don’t need an ideological war here.

It’s not uncommon for legal definitions and government proclamations to be further removed from reality. Should we stop calling them cryptocurrencies too or even change the name of Zcash because “it’s not cash”? Good luck with that.
Conceptually and practically, it is exactly money. Just not legal tender.

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@Zebraman

The discussion about ‘money’ should follow where the actual need and benefit lie. Only then can we find a way to solve these issues. This is not a matter of right or wrong. I am asking whether ZEC is necessary in our real-world, everyday payment environment. Even if traditional finance shifts to a digital payment system, this question remains the same. ZEC operates in an open-source environment, and the government can simply take that open source and fork it. I do not want to deny the reality we live in.

Then ignore the Ministry of Truth.

@Zebraman

If you really want a currency outside of government control, wouldn’t it be more realistic to support a community like the one for X-coin? As far as I know, the ideal you are chasing has already been abandoned by the ZEC Foundation. ZEC has already chosen to compromise—that is exactly why it is available for trade on Binance.

No, I think privacy is about choice, not enforced secrecy. There is value in open bookkeeping, which - in light of privacy - allows people to anonymously look in. In those situations, it makes more sense to have a transparent address rather than a publicly shared viewing key.

Zcash has had transparent addresses from its inception, and that’s exactly what I consider one of its unique qualities; choice on a single chain. If that is a critique you have, I don’t understand why you’re here.
Nobody is forcing people to use centralized exchanges.

@Zebraman

Money is, by its nature, a systematic shackle issued by the state to control its citizens and confine them within a hierarchy of economic power. According to ‘Chartalism’—one of the foundational theories of money—money is a state invention designed to collect taxes and bind economic agents into a single system. Yet, you argue that ZEC is ‘money’ while simultaneously insisting it must remain free from government control. Even stablecoins, if classified strictly, are not money; they are merely deposit receipts. They are simply the closest things to money that the blockchain industry has produced. If stablecoins were truly money, we would not need to purchase them with cash in the first place. None of the assets produced on the blockchain possess the true functions of money.

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Good point @the_zero you truly understand the world; I remember when SpongeBob SquarePants first aired on Nickelodeon summer of 1999. Every time that show went on commercial break Amazon commercial were showed multiple times doing commercial breaks. AWS has the biggest data, AI business in the world next to Microsoft which is second. Bill Gates had to step down from CEO in 1996, Jeff Bezos was a nobody in 96 fast forwards to 2026 he doesn’t speak as much because he doesn’t have to0.

The internet was built for ZEC and the whole blockchain not for social media. Look at it like you giving a baby a toy to play with why you cook. Governments can’t control the blockchain industry because AI will be in control once paper money won’t be needed to buy crypto or no other digital assets known to mankind. Creating wallet’s and running nodes are beyond our understanding because people don’t understand what and why crypto is here. We have free will if you end up in a system that’s trap because enough people didn’t build the free future you will seem you would want.

@Lowo88

I think you’re right. Like you, I often feel that many people misunderstand blockchain networks or struggle to accept their deeper nature.

We can sense this by looking at the structure of technology and the structure of data.

The fact that you develop wallets and that I run a Zebrad node comes from understanding what blockchain is really about.

Neither of us can change the world on our own. But by doing these things, we are showing that there are still people who understand it in a different way and care about what it means.

In a sense, these small actions are our way of letting the world know that a different understanding exists. Don’t you think?

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