The Cambrian Interface Explosion

[pacu]

I think this post started a bit odd. I’m glad the sharp-edge ironies are over and we can discuss more seriously.

I don’t think that the following quote is fair

@wobbzz

, it’s also the responsibility of community members to remain engaged with providing feedback on proposals here because this is our main communication channel with the community. We need your input while proposals are open for discussion

1. It is public knowledge that ALL Zcash engineers from ALL TEAMS are overworked. People might miss things. Example: I entered a FROST rabbithole one day and when I got out two days after there were three NEW DEV FUND PROPOSALS! It can happen that engineers have to choose between reviewing code or carefully reading and replying in the forums. they can’t do both. let’s be nice to each other.
2. Engaging professionally in the forums takes time. Sometime crafting a good post, requires many minutes, sitdowns, rephrasing, maturing the reactions, cooling down, rethinking and probably you end up deleting the post. Zcash devs shouldn’t shoot from the hip in the forums, our word is important, the community has trusted us with resources and they expect we use them delivering the most value possible.

@ambimorph

Speaking on behalf of ZCG: we take all this feedback seriously. It indicates we have definitely had a communication failure. We acknowledge this and we intend to work to (a) mitigate the current situation – @emersonian 's list is a great starting point that we’re working from, and (b) improve our communication strategies going forward taking into account what happened here.

We will follow up with more details, but we wanted you to know right away that we are in the process of responding in light of what has been raised here.

I never thought there was an intention to not request feedback to the core devs on this. I celebrate this statement from ZCG.

@daira

[Speaking for myself. I’m also tapping this out on a tiny phone screen while on holiday, so this comment might not be as polished as usual for me.]

proceeds to write a piece of remarkable Internet literature

Respects to @daira

My take on this
I was not aware of all the details shared on ZKProof 6. It kind of scared me when they were explained to me. I’m speaking as someone that really needs the feature: I already have price volatility at home . But if there are bridges, DEX or CEXs I can get transparent stable coins already. What’s the benefit of a lesser-private pool to get stablecoins if users have a faux sense of privacy because we need to trust the keys don’t leak? Isn’t that the trusted setup we worked so hard to get rid of?

I don’t know. I’m sure this is it’s not what most users understand that for a Zcash Shielded Asset.

I think that QEDIT should dedicate to work on deploying “vanilla” ZSAs first.

@noamchom

You’re missing the patently obvious benefit to users, which is that ZSA-stablecoins exist - with accessibility/ usability/ relative compliance assurances.

Without ZSA-stablecoin jurisdictional compliance, many users will have nothing. And the entire feature project risks having lost its greatest use case: shielded-fiat(s)

I understand because I am one of those users. The problem is that other users that leave under more oppresive goverments than me, won’t have the protection against it that they want Zcash to provide for them. A Regulated ZSA will eventually protect you against 5-dollar wrench attacks, it’s not bad, but it’s sub-par under Zcash standards.

I refer to my own posts

Let's bring stablecoins to ZSAs!

I think that there’s a lot of work to do in terms of UX and UI development before dealing with regulatory stuff We should learn from mistakes and not repeat the NU5 approach where protocol’s new features were inaccessible to end users for months. if people can’t launch zPepe or a zMonero meme coin and see that in their wallets easily, then all of this would be mostly nonsensical. It would be much more interesting to have zBTC, zETH and zSOL and then bridges to those chains. If zUSD means th…

Let's bring stablecoins to ZSAs!

I want to clarify that I do believe that if granted the ZEC, QEDIT would be able to carry out the work that they are describing here. They are a really important and capable org in this ecosystem Although, it should be first focusing mostly on deployment and finishing the last mile of ZSAs as we know them now so that people can start actually using them. This is a lot of work too! and QEDIT is the one org that knows the most about ZSAs its underpinnings and has the knowledge to help everyone t…

META: It took me about 50 minutes to read the thread and write this down