There is a difference. The farm with Asic’s are more likely mining Bitcoin, Litecoin etc. And the one farm with gpu’s cannot mine Bitcoin, Litecoin etc!
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Thx, i wasn’t aware of the difference 
(just kidding
I bet you bought a lot z9 
This Enigma Mine hardware is available to be purchased by anyone, no harm no foul. Custom ASIC as false limitation on sale quantity available for purchase by Bitmain (major ASIC vendor, only ASIC vender volume) unless to preferred customers import duty etc, also one brand…Nvidia, AMD have different brands i.e. zoltac, xfx, evga.
Bitmain will never sell their current generation hardware, GPU’s are dual purpose market so AMD and Nvidia will sell their current generation hardware, I think you get the point.
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No, i have said it earlier allready, just 1x and i wouldn’t buy even more than 2 at the end.
You guys today loose a lot of bets. Seems betting isn’t your strong side.
But to return you the favor i bet you made 5 rigs with 1080ti’s and bought them the last months totally overpriced 
nonono msi gtx 1080ti x 100 turn on mining ETH 
5 rigs with 1080ti’ Too small to become a player
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Does anyone know why Bitmain doesn’t export to Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan? After all, buyers in those markets could easily take a trip to Shenzhen and buy them at markets (as shown in article).
For Taiwan it could be political reasons, some kind of embargo.
The other reason could be, that they have contracts with retailers/resellers as i’am not aware that they have own shops.
I have seen allready several offers from Hong Kong that are not shipped by Bitmain but never thought about it due the slightly higher price. I so far thought these are private retailers at all, but it could be that it’s more organized as i thought about it. Seriously, never thought about that issue, just guessing …
Here we go, makes sense than that you are soo aggresivly defending your investment and nothing else but just that
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I don’t know @zooko or any other member of Zcash will go through this post or not but i wanted to share this with all of you,
after going through 1000 comments one thing is for sure majority is on the fork side but don’t go what people are asking you to do instead what is good for project go for it i don’t think you want your project to end up like a trash.
Few things looks suspicious to me :
- Bitmain releases Z9 at the same time of overwinter because they knew it will be hard to make a decision for you people to go for fork or stay on plan they don’t wanted to end up like ETH and XMR(Might be am wrong).
- About hashing power calculations yes absolutely Z9 is beating every available GPU in the market(not going into calculation side), but what is the problem with ASIC is every people who are going to bought Z9 they are going to get there return first as soon as possible you will end up with price fluctuations and it will not give stability and as soon as they will get there return soon there will be Z10 or Z11 which can do double or triple resulting old miner useless and people will go for the new one and again same thing will repeat again its kind of infinite loop.
If a coin is not stable it will loose trust of general public as an Crypto trader i will be scared to buy ZEC because of fluctuations done by ASIC miner.
And once we will open gate for Bitmain means there is no way back it’s one way and i think it’s too early for ASIC in ZEC a lot of things we need to achieve first.
Now there is something called AntBleed bug in all ASIC Link and it is continuously pinging to Bitmain server however they are claiming it was for ASIC owner to shutdown miner remotely but as per my knowledge if it is pinging Bitmain server all they need to do is a little code and they can control ASIC from there office even they can know who are all in the ZEC network which is again conflicting ZEC first principle of privacy and http vs https quote.
According to me why ZEC is this much successful is because of idea that promised by Zcash team, and Bitcoin case was different Bitcoin released 2009-2010 and ASIC came into market very late so it was successful as i think but here case is different ZEC is in early stage and if ASIC come into ZEC network early it won’t succeed(as i think, might be am wrong).
If you are going with ASIC and after one or two year you realizes that it was your mistake you can’t do anything about it and all people will blame you so be ready for that as well, but if you are going with fork you know Zcash will go steady and strong because community will be with you and we are the people who helped ZEC to reach at this level have a faith on our community we will take ZEC where it should be in near future.
And one more point ASIC is not available in all country resulting you will end up in small geographical area of world but we don’t want ZEC to limit for few countries it should be for all then only ZEC will succeed.
As of me i want ZEC to be succeed it doesn’t bother me whether ASIC is welcome or not, but ASIC will hit ZEC very bad according to me.
Last but not the least remember rabbit and tortoise story Slow and steady wins the race.
Do what is good for project and don’t regret on your decision that’s all i want to say Thanks.
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I from China You never have a way successful Become a player in z9 =
gpu never lost the money I can Easy to sell my GPU you know Chinese we always buy everything
I will always control your front door and back door But I will give you a window Poor you only have one Z9
Last to all my GPU miner don’t pressurise Zcash team we are part of Zcash and whatever decision they will make we can’t change by writing 2000 comments what can we do is switch am sure we will find something for us after all we all are digger let’s dig something and help technology.
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That is exactly what I am implying. Investor interest will be split between all forks of the project. It could have a large effect or a very small effect, but it WILL have an effect.
I mine Zec with 9 NVIDIA gpys…my best friend mine with 3 1060 GPYs…my other friend has 10 1070 GPYS …we have tiny from that mining but we spend a lot off time talking with other people about crypto and probaly at least 10 people bought it because off our talking with them…because its more love then bussines.(who can live with 2-300$ a month) and most off us did not even sold zec yet even when it was 700$…and i my town off 140 000 people there is around 200 people mining …biggest have 40 GPYS…after ASIC there will be ZERO (0) miners in my town.
Because GPYs we can buy in any local store today and ASIC we cant buy …so ASIC for us it total centralisation and then i would just use master card.
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Won’t deny it would become a possibility…but a forked coin is not going to suddenly appear on every major exchange. An exchange isn’t going to invest the time and energy to support a forked coin unless there is a reason to do so, which means it will take some time for it to happen, and as with any new coin, it is a crap shoot. Especially if a forked coin doesn’t have a dev team to support it. Remember just because a coin forks, doesn’t automatically mean someone is going to support the code base…it could very well end up DOA.
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I’m really sorry to hear this
This is why we need to stop ASIC
Are you kidding? You are blatantly admitting the reason you want to stop ASICs is so you can continue to GPU mine? What the hell.
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Who are you talking to?