Let's focus on ZSAs

[Reformed_Zcash]

@Dodger

However, I fear that we are about to be massively distracted by a push to define and implement a mechanism to distribute funds from the Lockbox, which will suck resources away from the work needed to deprecate zcashd, and deploy ZSAs (and, to be clear, ZSAs cannot be deployed on mainnet until zcash is deprecated). Even the process of drafting and reviewing ZIPs for proposals is a distraction, let alone the work required to implement them.

Therefore, I propose that, as a community and an ecosystem, we agree to set aside the Lockbox issue until the work required to deploy ZSAs is complete.

100% agree with this one of course youre not saying to ice box it forever like I am… but at either way its the way to go for the next few years. Building a massively complex lockbox payments gadget is way too expensive & resourse distracting project to do anywhere in the near future. There are tons of better things to be prioritizing… i’ll just quote myself again since im tired of typing the same ideas a dozen times.

isnt it a tragic bit of comedy that the ECC orgs NEVER talked about ZEC price until finally they created a fiscal crisis from ignoring ZEC & holders for so many years… now all of a sudden ZEC price is front and center… ONLY when it became an emergency its like these people never HEARD that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. just look how stupid the ECC looks today in a 1 year fiscal crisis while sitting on 10 million dollars of illiquid shitcoin competitors that we seed funded… we literally funded our enemies who’ve now beaten us out of the market (talking Starkware here especially)… what a freaking theater this project is turning into. I’ve been buying ZEC since 2017 and watching from the sidelines mostly but christs sake i gotta give a last run for my money this cycle… its flat out pathetic that there are a dozen fundamentally worthless memecoins now traded at multiples greater than ZEC… launching a memecoin takes a couple weeks… building ZEC to what it is today took 8 years… WTF?

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on the lockbox trend im getting ready to put out a dangerous idea… end the lockbox and end the devtax… lets rip this band aid off once and for all instead of plundering another year or two bickering about how to build all these complex rube goldberg machines about how to distribute the next million dollars. lets just leave a bad idea in the rear view mirror right? theres already been too many distractions and missed milestones already around this lockbox safety distribution concept… how about we keep focused on improving zcash protocol and improving ZEC experiences, instead of focusing on how to create a more convoluted way of writing ourselves the same paychecks as always.

too much administrative bloat. lets be done with it.

goes without saying other point here that there is a Moderation double standard around in this forum. Shawn sweeps in judiciously to eliminate any ZEC price speculation in threads basically everywhere… EXCEPT when its the CEOs of the two big orgs speculating about ZEC price in threads on a seeming weekly basis right now that they dug themselves into a financial crisis on the brink… for them its somehow allowable, I havent been seeing Joshs stuff getting cornered into the Price Speculation thread like basically anyone elses ideas would. zcash world has always felt two tiered theres the insiders getting paid by ZEC then theres the rest of us (ZEC users and holders)