Zcash is what we believe

Now is the time for us to evolve - as citizens, investors, and libertarians. Zcash has everything it needs to grow: to gain more recognition and visibility.

Zcash is not just a virtual currency trapped inside an electronic device. Zcash is all of us, our libertarian and peaceful ideology, our communion, and our desire to evolve.

We are a community, a family. Zcash is within us, in our fun, in what we dream and believe in. Zcash is what we believe Zcash can be.

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(Not speaking on behalf of ZF, as always)

Not all of us are libertarians :wink:

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Or anarchists.

It’s a common perception so it’s good to make that clear occasionally.

Dark Prague twitter account is unfortunately pushing that narrative. I am under the impression that anarchists are a small minority, maybe I’m wrong.

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This reminds me of a time I was in a Universalist Unitarian Church and the pastor said something that I took to mean he identified with “left-leaning progressives”.

I don’t identify with “left-leaning progressives” but I felt safe and included none-the-less.

I think there are overlapping sets of values shared across our diverse sub-communities.

Probably no pair of us share all the same values… and I know that some Zcashers share relatively few of my values.. but we can share energy none-the-less.. because…

Zcash

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Maybe this is just a game of semantics, but I can’t help but see Zcash as a libertarian project at its core. Not “Capital L” Libertarian in the sense of the US-specific political movement, but libertarian in the sense of prioritizing individual freedom over collectivism and social control.

Are there people in this community (ideology blind, technical-only traders/investors notwithstanding) that genuinely elevate some principal over and above individual rights/freedoms? That’d be curious indeed.

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Great question, I’d be curious to know what fellow ZEC stakeholders are thinking about this.

Personally, I never really thought about it much but I like some aspects of libertarianism. Yet, I am not sure it exactly fits my philosophy. While I don’t necessarily “elevate some principal over and above individual rights/freedom”, I do enjoy things in balance. I see modern societies a little bit too much on the individualism spectrum and I just do not find this inspiring. Now indeed, libertarianism and individualism are two different things, but to me, they are a fair bit related. Which is to say that I don’t mind having less rights and freedoms if what I have is still reasonable, and it enables the (ideally one day) network state I live in to prosper. Balance.

The post of ceb9ceb4ceb9cf89cf84 on crypto and family helped me a bit with that reflection.

It’s funny, I’ve been around crypto for a while and I can’t remember anyone sharing my views on this. Personally, anything I want to give, I do it while I’m alive. The rest (as it pertain to Zcash) will therefore benefit fellow ZEC holders as my tokens will hopefully remain locked forever. It doesn’t mean that I don’t love my family obviously. Simply, while I’m here I want to help them for anything regarding their safety, health and education. After that, I’m happy thinking that eventually, people believing in, or needing privacy, will benefits from my funds being locked.

Like I said, I never thought much about the libertarianism philosophy, so maybe I misunderstand it. Feel free to let me know if I’m a libertarian or something. :wink:

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That’s a good point. I guess the word “libertarian” is too much stained by the US-specific instance.

Regardless I think people can value privacy without ranking individual freedom above everything else.

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You’re a Libertarian, Bro.

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The country I live in has a government that is very discouraging due to certain attitudes. I know there are much more complicated countries, and I know I’m complaining on a whim. If I, who live in a democratic country, have a bit of a libertarian ideology, imagine someone who lives in a more complicated country. I believe we all need privacy. We need to be honest, truthful, and never commit crimes. However, having privacy doesn’t mean doing something wrong; we’re just limiting the power of governments. I want to be able to buy something without anyone knowing everything I do, but I have to be truthful enough to not buy anything illicit (never engage in illicit acts) and pay taxes (give Caesar what belongs to Caesar) when I earn a profit or receive money (pay income tax).

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Privacy is a right I want. I want privacy, and privacy must be considered normal. Privacy isn’t synonymous with illegal acts; privacy doesn’t mean hiding money you’ve received or avoiding paying taxes. Privacy means limiting the power of others or the government’s power over what I do with my money. However, I believe that, even in democratic countries, the trend is toward limiting privacy. We will have less and less privacy as time goes on.

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This whole KYC/AML/transparency stuff that is pushed worldwide to pretend to fight crimes and bad guys is so pathos :joy:

With actual technological means, you don’t need to surveil everyone’s finances to catch actual criminals.

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Perhaps they aren’t meant to be catched. :upside_down_face:

I don’t subscribe to a strict ordering of values.. so yeah.. sometimes individual freedom is the answer to the question:

Why am I doing this?

But sometimes it’s something else, I am free to choose different principles as primary, and others ought to be as well… oh wait…

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