Expand & grow Zcash community

Agreed. :wink:

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This could drive a lot of users to ZEC. ZEC gifting. We need Cash app like experience & growth tactics to open Zcash wallet. Something like get 100$ if you refer your friend.

Official ECC wallet can be this, you can buy shielded ZEC in one click, send to a phone number in one click, refer to your family & friends in one click. YT commercial with celebrity (optional: who believes in privacy). These days fintech firms are partnering with influencers, celebrities for real giveaways, follow, retweet etc to win a pool of money. Something like that too.

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Good point on the z.cash website. You know how we’ve always talking about “All it takes is chainalysis to expose BTC owners”. Why doesn’t Zcash start doing that? There are plenty of public BTC addresses that are already exposed (exchanges, whales, etc). That should be front-and-center of the z.cash website, in my opinion. Let Zcash be the one to call out how exposed BTC addresses truly are. Could even tap into some API that updates on an interval which would probably increase daily active users (on the site).

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Would there be any interest in re-building the zcashcommunity site?

It was one of the first places to actually list all the Zcash wallets and mining pools in one place, but since Josh and the ECC re-did the z.cash site last year to include most of that information, the community site is a bit out-of-date.

If anyone wants to see something added to it I’d be happy to give access to anyone who wants to work on it. It’s completely non-profit and doesn’t display any ADs (and it should remain that way) but beyond that I would go so far as to let the community completely scrap what’s there now and build it to what you want.

Just a matter of figuring out what content you would like to see.

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We have proposed an online hub for the Spanish-speaking community to expand the community.

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Growing the community is a great goal that I really share as well. Just a few ideas that people are working on that will contribute to community building and public awareness:

I talked to someone heavily involved in the ethereum community and I asked them specifically how Zcash could help grow its community like eth did. They pointed to meetups and creating understandable explanations of the tech and its applications as helping to grow the community.

I also really like what @Ziga is doing with Documenting Zcash on Twitter.

When we release our videos, we’d also really like to get a grassroots campaign to share it widely on social media, so get ready to hit the Retweet button in 2022 :slight_smile:

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I think that’s in the works :shushing_face:

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The Foundation website is in the process of a facelift, nothing planned Community website that I know of.

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Oh I was referring to the Naomi thing!

Since it’s relevant to this thread I can confirm that ZF will launch a completely redesigned zfnd.org in January. To be followed by a much more user-friendly and comprehensive grants platform (launch date TBD, initial setup work in progress now).

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I also really like what @Ziga is doing with Documenting Zcash on Twitter.

Thank you! I think the demand for short-form Zcash media is still way underserved. For example, there is a lot of good long-form Zcash content out there, but so little of it has been spliced down into sharable social media nuggets.

That’s what I’m trying to do with Documenting Zcash. Focus on the viral stuff people will want to share. This usually means keeping thing less technical and dumbing things down for the non-tech folks.

The most significant catalyst is probably price. Coin goes up, more people ape in.

This is truth. The more that people make money from Zcash, the more likely they are to share it with others. Nobody wants to share something they lost a boat load of money on. This is why most of the traders on crypto twitter are so negative towards Zcash. They don’t know how to trade ZEC for a profit and end up looking like a fool. Let’s be honest though, most of the popular “traders” on Twitter are pretty terrible traders anyways. Sadly, they do have huge audiences though and their negativity towards Zcash has held us back. That will change in time.

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The three top things I believe we need in order to grow our community:

  1. I’m 100% with @aquietinvestor that Zcash needs a very good podcast. Bankless is awesome at building hype for Ethereum. We need the same level of education and hype building for Zcash. Is this something you would be interested in starting @aquietinvestor? I feel you could be a good fit for it.

  2. We need Zcash featured on more popular podcasts. This is a huge missed opportunity that we’re not taking advantage of.

  3. We need better narratives for Zcash. Everything in crypto these days is driven by narratives. “Zcash is a privacy coin” isn’t strong enough imo.

    Bitcoin, for example, is “digital gold” and SoV.

    For Zcash, I think we should consider moving our narrative towards:

    Cash3 (similar characteristics to Web3, but for cash)
    The next evolution of Cash. Digital, private, non-custodial, person to person.

    Private Store of Value (PSoV)
    The next evolution of Bitcoin. SoV + Privacy + Yield.

Cash3 from a narrative perspective feels like the next step in the evolution of cash.
PSoV feels like a better investment opportunity than the SoV that Bitcoin offers, while also providing better utility (privacy). The beauty is Zcash is both Cash3 and a PSoV.

“Privacy coin” as a narrative feels like a niche market or feature for people seeking more privacy. It doesn’t feel like the next evolution of cash or Bitcoin. We need to move past this simplistic narrative. We’re not a simple privacy coin project. We’re building the frickin’ cash system of the future.

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Not being political, but maybe get Congressman Warren Davidson on board if possible. He is a proponent of Bitcoin and financial privacy. At the moment, Zcash is the best financial privacy.

But it would need better UI and definitely audited wallets for z addresses.

The implicit rights to privacy outlined in the Bill of Rights would ‘poll’ well with all Americans (and many other countries as well) regardless of political perspectives.

I think Pomp interviewed Davidson already.

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I really like what you’re doing on educating people, but I must say the whole entire “web3”/“X[num]” thing is sounds incredibly inorganic and unoriginal.

The offshore banking narrative, in my opinion, seems like a better fit for ZEC in particular.

My .02zec.

In July 2020, Davidson founded the Sound Money Caucus, a caucus focused on maintaining financial stability and Dollar hegemony. He serves as its chair.[21]

Less politicans. Less US influence. More global thinking. We don’t need these people, they need us.

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Offshore banking has nothing to do with building a better cash system though. I’m not against that narrative, I think it’s great for PSoV play, but I also believe Zcash is more than a PSoV.

Open to suggestion on more ideas other than Cash3. I think it works well though. It is easy to understand for those that know what Web3 stands for.

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What does web 3 mean to you?
I think I have an idea of the real motive.
Private cash for degens would be a good narrative. Takes one to know one, recovering degen here :sweat_smile:

ETH is ultra sound money. ZEC is web3 money

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Why would I trust an infrastructure with small amounts of money when no one is using it with large amounts of money? Think about all that offshore wealth that could potentially be stored on chain, thus raising the price, thus making more people notice. Follow the money if you want “price to go up”!

As much as I disagree with Jack Dorsey spazzing out over the “web3” stuff right now (https://twitter.com/jack/status/1473725424387694601), I absolutely think that term has been created/commandeered/tainted by Vulture Capitalists and it’s really become apparent within the past year how much it’s been forced.

s/web3/private

Why would I trust an infrastructure with small amounts of money when no one is using it with large amounts of money? Think about all that offshore wealth that could potentially be stored on chain, thus raising the price, thus making more people notice. Follow the money if you want “price to go up”!

I like the offshore wealth narrative. I use this term a lot on Twitter, but I don’t think it is the primary narrative for Zcash.

As much as I disagree with Jack Dorsey spazzing out over the “web3” stuff right now (https://twitter.com/jack/status/1473725424387694601), I absolutely think that term has been created/commandeered/tainted by Vulture Capitalists and it’s really become apparent within the past year how much it’s been forced.

Narratives are intended to be sign posts. They provide people with simple understanding in as few words as possible. For example, Bitcoin maxis came up with the narrative “digital gold”. I’m personally not a fan of maxis but that doesn’t make the term any less valuable. It’s a catchy narrative and people easily spread it.

“Web3” has an implied meaning of decentralized ownership of data and portability. It doesn’t matter if Web3 has been executed perfectly yet or if VCs came up with the term (or what Jack thinks of the term). My point is people generally understand what Web3 means and therefore it could be a good term to spin off of for our own narratives.

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