Let’s talk about ASIC mining

I removed the quote. While i got the irony many others won’t. That’s why i suggested it.

Thanks bro. I guess I’ll live to die another day! :slight_smile:

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So you have purchased / spent 100k to 160k worth of equipment and construction costs on building a mining room and you know nothing about the company / coin you did this for?

I think this debate as gone on long enough as it appears ZcashCo is just stringing people along; for the record during launch it was claimed that the new Zcash Equihash POW was ASIC resistant which it is clearly not, now the company is trying to weasel its way out; a company without clear vision is a leaderless company as Zcash appears to be now.

Any crypto currency where it’s POW can be controlled by any party due to some technology advantage over the general mining populace is a compromised POW and you have to take the worst case, look at just what happened to BTG. People like ‘boxalex’ who do not see this have other agenda’s.

I think crypto currencies POW need to be looked at differently as it appears most coin POW are created by software engineers, even ethereum who don’t have an understanding on how things are implemented in hardware so they don’t know what is a ASIC resistant POW and their assumptions are clearly wrong.

ZcashCo please research “ProgPow” for something that should be included in next fork of Zcash, that is overwinter, don’t say it can’t be done as I am software engineer and not management where all your stupid excuses work.

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Stringing what along? They gave you and everyone a clear answer, if english isn’t’ your first language, I’ll babel translate it for you, just let me know what it should be.

What answer is that? we are studying it? I won’t speak my mind because I am coming off a ban now.

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There’s a big difference between “nothing” and “something.” I know more than you think I know and I certainly do not have to take a test from you.

Do others notice how those who are Pro-ASIC will go through your post with a fine tooth comb trying to find “something” to try to cut you down and discredit you. The hostility in here towards already established declaration of ASIC-Resistance is pathetic.

So, go ahead, C.A. I suppose it’s your turn to have a crack at trying to discredit me.

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I agree with you 100% yet I have yet to see any comments by developers as to whether or not they will have a look at PROG PoW.

EDIT: It appears it may be a silver platter placed on their table. I’m patiently waiting to see if they are actually listening to this thread anymore. It would be nice if at least one of them would say they will check to see if PROG PoW is a viable solution for the ASIC-Resistance issue at hand.

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The sarcasm you’re conveying is totally unnecessary, sir.

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It’s funny you can see who is Pro Asic here. There the ones that go after anyone that is against Asic! Come on Zooko and his clan are stalling till after the 20th of June. He has already made his mind up and to hell with the gpu miners!! And I like how some Pro Asic people are make a new thread with your gripes. That way maybe we can get this thread about Asic to fade away and hope no one else reads it.This thread seems to be one sided!!

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It seems one sided as of late. I’m sticking around for quite a long time till this all comes to a head. So, sit back and relax, get some popcorn and a drink.

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They act like a bunch of kiddies crying because they cannot get their way. So they attack.

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After judging myself from earlier posts weeks ago, I began to see how those who would read my posts might get that similar impression. So, I toned it down a bit and trying to keep it civil.

I guess we’ll see some day soon if they’ll look into it because I created a new topic for it. The reason I’m saying this is because if it is a viable solution for ASIC Resistance, this will save the developers a lot of time and effort that they can continue to invest on the upcoming updates to ZEC.

He’s NOT doing anything “shady,” He’s doing right out in the open.

I have no proof of conflict of interest?

I have no proof Zooko also has an “economic incentive” to have two chains (ASIC/GPU) he’s still currently talking about as if he is trying to market it.?

How is it only ASIC or GPU miners are the one’s who have an economic incentive but apparently, the developers do not also have an economic incentive that could potentially harm the economic revenue of GPU miners and violate the declaration of ASIC resistance?

You make this comment here:

Then turn around do the very thing you just accused someone else of doing here:

How is my pointing out someone has a conflict of interest a “smear?” The only reason I’m bringing to light the developers also have an economic incentive is to point out we (as a community) may want to determine the best way to come to a consensus without conflict.

Ever heard the saying, “It starts with you.” Kind of goes along with the saying, “Got to give respect in order to receive it.”

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ROFL…

“V” and “B” are popping up again… Here we go… Grab your popcorn. :joy:

Keep it respectful now. Okay? :slight_smile:

So, what happened to BTG? Maybe you can englighten us what it has to do with Zcash? Or Asics?

So what’s my agenda than? With 1x Z9 in purchase i must have really a big agenda :joy:
Don’t try to copy your own conspiracy theories onto other people.

I even bet i won’t get a meaningful answer in the BTG case you mentioned other than the next wild speculations that Bitmain, mostly Jihan Wu personally, launched a 51% attack as revenge or greedyness?? :scream:

Obviously your “opinion” but no weight. Still coming out combative…

Speculation… where’s you proof? You say they will not double there Dev fee. Prove it…

What thread did you read until now? If you read through it the pro asics, a minority, is attacked all the time beginning form 1st post. So that “go after anyone that is against Asics” must be a mistake i guess. One sided thread he wrotes, can’t believe that one, lol. :joy:

It’s as well funny to see who is pro GPU, actually it’s even more obvious and funny than the asic supporters. Why, here a small list:

  • i didn’t see so far a pro asic to call the team to stop whatever developement
  • i didn’t see so far a pro asic being concerned of dev fees
  • i didn’t see so far a pro asic to offend the devs, moderators, any other team member
  • i didn’t see so far a pro asic beeing a forseer how Zcash will crash, go down, left alone, whatever.
  • i didn’t see so far a pro asic threaten and blackmail Zcash
  • i didn’t see so far a pro asic to dump it’s Zcash’s
  • i didn’t see so far a pro asic to come up with 1001 conspiracy theories to defend his points
  • in 9 of 10 cases a pro asic gets attacked by a pro gpu and not reverse, just putting things straight here.

So if you think it’s funny what a pro asic writes, try to see it from my point of view and the points above and i will garantee you that it’s more funny for sure reading the pro gpu comments.