@holmesworcester I think you guys on the MGRC would be wise to make some small strategic grants in addition to the big ones.
If you see an opportunity for a low risk (in $ terms) high potential reward please just go for it! I would rather you mess up a couple smaller grants than be too cautious.
The ‘major’ grants are another story.
im mostly just being salty for reason that sticking to the plain meaning of language is indicator of the legitimacy of any “governance” authority. (perhaps its just i have a problem with inapt words “governance” , “community” used ) anyway, i’ve always maintained throughout that mgrc should only be doing what the zip explicitly permits, and without any enforcement mechanism to enforce the language of the zip to the benefit of the coinholder, the only option for the coinholder is exit. there are no avenues for redress in zcash other than spaz out on this forum.
anyway, perhaps in the area of nascent borderless private money, there are more important aspects of growing the citizenry than these perhaps antiquated ideals, but inevitably, i submit that these sorts of disregarded processes will not be viewed well. (governance is captured – which it is) thusly, my joke here is that meme included in the prior post is an pre-zip1014 gripe, and now there are further gripes that can be griped.
how about that price action!?
1/ Price is not a distraction. Every product has minimum production costs which must be met to maintain viability. You know this. To ignore price factors indicates naiveté , foolishness, hand waiving, blinded by privilege or some combination thereof. Price matters. That is a reality of business.
2/ I’m astonished by the degree of contentiousness at every single step.
3/ Looking forward to proof of actual work.
Thanks for your offer of assistance and your advice. We are currently evaluating ZF’s grant system to understand it more. It sounds like your argument is less about throwing away the entire ZF grant system for our use, but augmenting it with the forum more directly and other ways to incorporate direct community input. If I understood you correctly, I don’t think that’s a bad idea, but will take work/time as you mentioned.
I am having a bit of trouble parsing this. Major is clearly defined in the English language.
major != smaller.
Major can be impact and doesn’t have to mean costs a lot - I think this is what aristarchus is referring to, but I just want to check.
ZDA members have already expressed an interest, so why not go through the first two grants on the forums? the functionality is here, and we can always add some plugins if needed. Thesis (cc: @mhluongo) have already publicly stated they are interested in applying so I dont think their will be too many confidentially issues. and it is a great opportunity.
The ZDA have shown they work well with the forums, some of them submitting zips.
The forum is a great place to get community feedback and help refine processes
if we look at what is involved objectively it is a lot more than 5hrs a month. Please use the forums to let others to help you in this. This whole thing is going to have to be a group effort for this to work.
We are all here to help make this a success.
That interpretation makes sense and works for me.
We’re definitely going to make use of the forums, not so much as a way to save time (which it might not do) but as a way to increase transparency and engagement and improve the overall result. I think the flow will be that people will apply the way they would have already for ZF grants, and at some point we’ll create a forum thread for the grant application to solicit feedback and questions.