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Can try zingo-cli!

Jump to around the 8 minute mark on how to use zingo-cli, you can use the default servers instead of a local node as I showed in this video

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im going to try right now! thanks!

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I dont have the seed / mnemonic, only the compressed/decompressed transparent private keys. I guess I will try to implement a basic import right now because it was in litewallet-cli, but it seems to have been taken out of zingo?

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Ywallet can import transparent private keys but it sounds like the problem may be that the notes are micro-quantities. Basically any note (utxo) with a value below 0.00005 is currently not spendable because it is less than the current fee required to spend the note (zip 317).

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I don’t accept that ā€œany note below XYZ is currently not spendableā€. This system is broken if I cannot spend legitimate funds.

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It’s defined here. ZIP 317: Proportional Transfer Fee Mechanism

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This is true for any cryptocurrency with fees. If the utxo/note is smaller than the fee then you simply can’t spend it.

Not completely sure if that’s the issue though. Maybe reach out to @hanh for help with ywallet.

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How long to get a basic badge

I understand it’s ā€œdefinedā€ in ZIP317. I don’t accept it. This currency is unusable if I cannot pool close to $250 together and transfer it.

Another issue, it’s been nothing short of a nightmare to get my full zcashd node to download all of the blocks. I easily run ./bitcoind and wait at most 24 hours to get the entire blockchain. Zcash? Nope, it’s been a week, running on a fresh VPS, 16GB of ram, 8 core machine. It gets stuck at 61% and slows to an extreme crawl.

I’m sorry but if this is the experience I have to look forward to for Zcash, I’m out. I’m still trying to get this money back. Is everyone telling me that I should give up? Is it not possible for me to get this $250 back? Please let me know so I can stop wasting my time.

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 Downloading blocks | 1781600 (1789660 headers) / ~2872490 (62%)
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           Next upgrade | NU6 at block height 2726400, in around 820 days
            Connections | 8
  Network solution rate | 9.373 GSol/s


Since starting this node 12 hours, 35 minutes, 47 seconds ago:
- You have validated 277587 transactions!

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FYI, I gave up last time, but today I decided to try again. It has gone from 61% → 62% after 12.5 hours. Is my network solution rate slow or something? I find it hard to believe considering it is a DigitalOcean instance.

this block height is where there was a spam attack and it takes longer and slower on any sort of hardware to sync this part. usually its not network speed related but hardware power mostly.

1% in 12 hours seems bit slow but theres not much you can do.

also this spam attack was the reason the minimum fee amount had to be increased also.

the spam attack started around 1,710,000 block
and the worst of it ends around 1,830,000 block
then it should speed up a lot.

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I think it’s probably best to get a really solid idea of what is actually happening with your wallets. My suspicion that the funds are not spendable because they are in microquantities is based on that there are 48 separate wallets amounting to 0.1 and 0.5 apeice and with hundreds of thousands of transactions between them. However, it is just a suspicion and I don’t actually know (though I feel fairly confident just because of the numbers).
Like mentioned, zip 317 changed the fee structure to where sweep transactions and even free transactions are no longer permitted. It was required to stop a network attack that persisted in different forms for like over 2 years. You aren’t the only user affected by this. Notably, users who may have received small quantity mining or faucet rewards cannot spend notes less than the single-action fee. This technically applies to all users but possibly may apply to all of the funds in this case and so one perhaps cannot spend anything.
If that be the case, and at this time, there is nothing that actually can be done. zip317 effectively burned all notes below the single action fee 0.00005. However, if the fee structure were to change again in the future, the minimum lowered for whatever reason, then those notes could be made spendable again. There is also the possibility that some other transaction method could make some kind of an exceptional transaction for these things. The issue is that it has never received priority status because relatively few users have been affected overall, maybe a dozen since 317 was actually fully enforced on-chain.

I wish you fast syncing with zcashd! :fast_forward_button:

Could you pls help, why am I getting below error. I using bitcore-lib-zcash library
{ā€œresultā€:null,ā€œerrorā€:{ā€œcodeā€:-26,ā€œmessageā€:ā€œ66: min relay fee not metā€},ā€œidā€:ā€œcurltestā€}

Looks like you are using too low of a base tx fee and the network won’t accept the transfer.

That’s likely but it’s referring to a relay fee, not sure if thats the same thing.

If that be the case, and at this time, there is nothing that actually can be done. zip317 effectively burned all notes below the single action fee 0.00005

Yes, that’s exactly what is happening. Where we differ is there should be no reason why money is not spendable. I have transferred similar transactions on other cryptocurrencies and they work fine. To further extend the analogy, I can go into a place and pay with change if I want to. I have fond memories as a child of my grandpa having a 4ft tall Coca-Cola bottle where I would put all of my change inside until one day, years later, it was filled up. The day my brother and I got a chance to crack that bitch open was an amazing day.

Now, Im not saying that zcash should be responsible for teaching children the value of money and saving, but I AM saying that it under any circumstance, money should never just become ā€œunspendableā€ just sitting there (unless the value of such currency reaches zero). Not even the United States Government has the audacity to say such a thing! Then again, maybe you are from another country in which that is OK. If that is the case, then I can see where the divide is. The fact of the matter is I have $250+, and this is a decent sum of money. I could see a reason for laughing me out of the room if I had pennies in total value, but this is not 5 cents.

My values are 0.000001XY +/- 0.00000100 (slightly changed for privacy). Some of these notes are mining awards, by the way. Are small mining awards unspendable?

  Downloading blocks | 1931402 (1962816 headers) / ~2875250 (67%)
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           Next upgrade | NU6 at block height 2726400, in around 690 days
            Connections | 8
  Network solution rate | 9.593 GSol/s

This is what I’m at: 67% since I first posted here. That is +5% in 3 or 4 days. Just letting everyone know.

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The problem is with proportional fees, because I have many transactions, the network fee is calculated at a number that is 100-1000x higher than the value of my wallet.

Prior to zip317, spending those notes would not be a problem, this is a relatively new thing. After the NU5 upgrade, the network was basically crippled from an attack created by transactions with huge amounts of inputs and outputs. They got away with it for so long because of the fee structure being sort-of loosey-goosey like it was and it cost them almost nothing. Regardless of the tx size, the fee was static and incredibly cheap. Zip317 was the devised solution but it specifically does negatively affect holders of excessive micro-quantities, such as yourself. Like I said, it is a known effect but a subsequent solutuon has not yet been priortized.
To your coin adage; imagine the pennies are cut in half and it’s going to cost a penny to have each one put back together. That’s the current situation (the sub-penny threshold is 0.00005) and if there were anything I could in the interim to help, I would, but it’s enforced on the consensus level so without a network fee change (it is likely reflective of the current/recent prices which have been low) or some special-tx fix, it is not possible to spend them.

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You will speed up moving forward :+1:

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can confirm it took some time (3-4 days in total) to get the full node synced

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