Price Speculation

It does seem Zcash holders have stronger hands than most.

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Not sure if this is really true:

Some stats Buyer/Seller relation for most of the top coins divided in groups:

BTC as the meassure:
BTC: 34%/66% across 73 markets

POW coins:
ETC: 21%/79% across 38 markets
DOGE: 21%/79% across 10 markets
DASH: 22%/78% across 33 markets
ZEC: 24%/76% across 25 markets
XMR: 24%/76% across 19 markets
LTC: 24%/76% across 44 markets
ETH: 27%/73% across 55 markets

POS/POA/POS like coins:
TRX: 26%/74% across 31 markets
ADA: 29%/71% across 21 markets
PIVX: 30%/70% across 5 markets
NEO: 34%66% across 30 markets
XTZ: 35%/65% across 10 markets
XLM: 37%/63% across 24 markets
EOS: 38%/62% across 36 markets
VET: 40%/60% across 10 markets
IOTA: 43%/57% across 14 markets
ONT: 43%/57% across 11 markets

One possible conclusion with this would be the POW coins in generally are forced to sell to cover costs while POS coins aren’t, hence we can witness less sell pressure on these.

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thinking ZEC downside price discovery is pretty much there. continue defending $100 levels like we are; we’ll be looking pretty once BTC finds her sea-legs.

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Depends on how much more fear comes from BCH silliness, thats pulling BTC down & everything else with it.

At the rate its going I dont think we’ll have to wait long, if one (or both?) implode we’re in for one hell of a bounce.

Remember when ZEC traded at 0.046 BTC? Wasnt that long ago & BCH hit that yesterday.


Been thinking alot about “value” and its meaning lately

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looks ok for BTC, can you make the same graph ZEC/BTC to see what to expect? :thinking:

Im going to work right now

below 100 now …

Bitcoin is tanking, only way to stay at 100$ is for Zcash to increase BTC value.

just watch who bricked asics off, btg.

i think zooko has to have another video chat with bitmain ceo, maybe he can try to negotiate 6month asic protection instead of 1 year, who knows… Chinese known to be generous :sunglasses:

BTG? You are kidding? ~99% fake volume, this coin is worthless and the last thing i would use BTG is to compare whatever.

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i totally agree, coin itself is total **** compared to what zcash used to be.

considering this - it is getting better, while zcash is getting worse.

There is no getting better in the case of BTG if the price and volume is fake … one excludes the other automaticily mate…

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do you have any proof that btg volume on binance is fake?

BTG volume on Binance is real, it’s exactly 0.25%.
The BTG volume on Bithumb is fake, it’s 98.57%
some more for BTG:
Bitfinex: 0.24%
P2B: 0.22%
Hitbtc: 0.16%
The rest of the exchanges like Huobi, OKEx, Sistemkoin and many others have about 0.01-0.10%. It’s clear that the BTG volume is pure fake, hence the price as well.

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it’s 0.25% if you compare to bithumb. but you just don’t do that. bithumb is not a marker.

I know where to find that information, thanks.

fact is, that most of zcash volume comes from China. most of the miners are from there too. price is falling, difficulty rising.

Take away the Bithumb volume and no volume at all would be left for BTG, if you think the price would be still the same without that mega fake 99% volume, ok so it be, but i’am pretty sure it will hit the ground fast…

My comment is not related to Asics or ZEC, just about BTG and this Titanic coin shouldn’t be used for whatever comparison, use Monero instead, at least real volume and price, or whatever gpu coin that isn’t 99% manipulated and faked.

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Breaking 100 was not good news to see today, especially when it was 113 (as if that’s good) yesterday. And to think it was 700+ not even a year ago…

If any publicly traded organization suffered such disastrous drops in share prices, the executives would be dragged out in the streets and humiliated as imbeciles. @zooko - hello?

Can we just vote with our wallets, to do an emergency fork from ASICS right away and not wait for end of next year?

For example there would be 3 options:

  1. Do an emergency fork,
  2. Stay on ASICS
  3. Wait for a year and then fork.

Everyone would send 0.01 Zcash, and balance from which address you are sending would determine how much % your vote counts. Hidden addresses would not be allowed, as we cant see their balance of course.

At the end of the vote, a script would check balances of all addresses that voted, so voting from one and moving zcash to another address and voting again would not work.

What say you :smiley:

I’d say, that should’ve be done in May!
Count my vote in for transparent voting.

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