Price Speculation

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hello? 10 char

ZEC up 15% today :rocket:

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Anyone got some more o’ those 40 bucks Zikash coins?

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I expect pretty much everything to outperform Bitcoin in the future.
I truly wonder how a number goes up cult behaves in a number goes down environment, meat grinder style. Does lightning still fixes it? :joy:

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this doesnt make any sense to me lmfao… BTC is the only crypto thats truly mainstream and now has passive ETF inflows to constantly push up demand for coins. I tend to think BTC upside slowly dampens compared to old cycles like 2013 or 2017… but that said its still gonna be a dominant tech investment. nobody really cares about usability stuff like lightning, BTC isnt designed to be used its designed to be bought and held as a hard asset investment.

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That’s the point, secular bull markets die on universally good news so everyone gets trapped.
Whether Bitcoin double tops here or tries one push higher for a Head & Shoulders doesn’t change the outcome. In my opinion, the dry bleeding will last years and years. And there’s probably no coming back from that level of greed and hubris.

Then you have the usual signs, for example JPMorgan telling you subtlety that they want you to be their exit liquidity:

Price is variable so lets look at the “shielded marketcap” and zoom out. I take the weekly closing price and multiple by our shielded supply we gather from zebrad each week. This is 7 months of data :bar_chart:.

Since NU6 we are headed up only. Where will this weeks price close at?

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its great to seeing more shielding but its actually also really sad to see that shielding has no correlation… or possibly worse a negative correlation on price

im pretty confident of the exact opposite… money is going to try bleed into BTC more and more through generic tech ETFS, RIAs, all kinds of other mom and pap institutions. BTC is likely to continue to outperform alts

Shielding pool growth recently has largely been due to Orchard and auto shielding.

I think there will be a positive correlation in the growth of the spending of shielded funds (as it will directly increase demand for shielded ZEC). Let’s see how many other merchants quickly follow NYM by integrating the new BTCPayServer plugin to accept shielded ZEC and how many more users start spending shielded ZEC.

People are always very confident around tops. Just saying…

I don’t know who that is, but for sure an absolute legend:

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/07/18/satoshi-era-bitcoin-whale-moves-final-48b-to-galaxy-digital-likely-prepping-sale

So you can be a Bitcoiner, not talk about NAV premiums or BTC treasury companies all day long and have some lucidity left. That’s encouraging :laughing:

ZEC has been below $100 for over 1100 days, how much have you accumulated?

Triple digit ZEC is a limited time offer, bless the holders. :shield: :hot_pepper:

Have fun out there :zebra:

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With ECC now in financial silent mode i’m not feeling great about the future price of ZEC… theyve sitting on like 65k coins and have never showed much respect to helping ZEC increase in value… now only god knows what sort of hedging theyll be up to amongst the Starkware and Agoric coins vs their ZEC bags and that hefty debt to Zooko’s (?) adjacent LLC named Least Authority

what are you talking about?

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Just read this and laughed. I was thinking the same thing. I yawn when folks go “conspiracy theory” on ECC. ECC needs space to keep doing exactly what they are doing.

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we are tagging the all time low of 0.0003 BTC again… transactions on the network are somewhere around 1 per minute.

and yet…

well, the time has come for the ending of the speculative fervor and misallocation by nation states and banks into generally useless technologies. many fortunes have been made and now many fortures must be lost.

sure a lot of things have been learned through building and the public has benefited by the introduction of consumer ppk. while it may seem that innovation has made coordination of resources easier, certain mental humps have not been able to be overcome to allow for meaningful benefits to real world improvements.

financial engineering has only accelerated and has gone from a contact sport to one of spectacle that is earily familiar to James Caan fans of the cult classic Rollerball. bitcoin has not broght freedom but only a readiness and hype to be surveiled. etherium has brought nothing but fraud and the culture of pretend and extend to accounting culture. misinformation prop techniques is the new jazz.

so i say to you, what of after the crash? when the Tom Lees of CNBC boomer media are exposed and the mood sours.

zcash must continue to try to build guardrails to see useful privacy tools developed. we cannot give into the cyber gulag for inflated chits on transparent ledgers captured by pump and dump devs and their financeers.

what will we do after the crash?

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