Ledger Live had issues withdrawing Zec and ongoing.
I was able to recover Zec by migrating to Trezor using 24 words seed phrase.
If what happened to Ledger happens to Keystone, what are the alternative wallets that can recover Zec?
And what is the procedure to recovery? Is it a 24 seed phrase or 20 seed phrase?
Is Keystone open source?
Hopefully it won’t, in part because @nuttycom and I worked to ensure that the Keystone firmware uses as many of the Zcash Rust crates directly as possible (rather than point-in-time vendored versions of the crates with custom modifications), and thus any future consensus changes should be easier for them to adopt. There’s one large component duplicated in their firmware (the signature digest algorithm), but we’re thinking through ways to refactor the zcash_primitives crate to enable this to be reused as well.
Yes:
I love my keystone, just bought one for my father so he can keep his Zcash safe!
Since NU5 when Ledger users had their ZEC stuck for a year, I have never trust Ledger to deliver anything for Zcash users.
Personally, I am much more confident with Zashi + Keystone for long-term accessability to my ZEC. I was never brave enough to recommend family and friends (who are new to crypto) to anything related to Zcash before, but 2024 with Zashi and Keystone changed that.
Im getting an issue on my keystone where I cannot scan the device with my phone when trying to get the signature for zashi to send.
@artkor had a similar issue in another thread but I believe it was the reverse where the keystone was not scanning the phone screen(?). I’ve had a look closely at the keystone device but there doesnt appear to be a screen protector on it to remove.
Anyone else having this issue?
UPDATE
I seem to have solved it. My android phone was struggling reading the QR code on the black background, when you click on the QR code on the keystone device, it makes a white back ground and enlarges it a little. My phine was able to read the signature then
If say you need to access your funds? Can you migrate to another hardware?
Like what happened to Ledger Live, the only solution that worked for me was to use my 24 words seed phrase on Trezor.
Yeah thats not the issue, as a last resort maybe, im just having a technical bug with scanning the QR code
I’m not sure, but I would guess that on phones with less than 6.1 inches it might be possible. It’s likely that if users give more feedback, we’ll know for sure.
I was using a S23 ultra, so plenty of size, but see my edit above.
The QR code with the black background was making the phone not want to read it
I know its not. But what if?
Hey y’all! I recently connected my Keystone to Zashi and was able to send some ZEC to the Keystone account. I’ve tried multiple times to send an outgoing ZEC transaction out of the Keystone account on Zashi and every transaction gets stuck on “Sending”…and never completes. Am I doing something wrong, or is there a technical issue?
Did you immediately try to send or did you wait for confirmations? If you have spendable balance, then you should be able to to send.
I waited for confirmations and my balance looks spendable. The transactions just won’t succeed??!!??
I’ve updated both the Keystone firmware and the Zashi app. Still cannot send ZEC out of the Zashi wallet with Keystone. Seems like a major flaw!!!
Could you please provide more information?
So Sending… screen is the one you see after you successfuly scanned the Animated QR code with KS device, followed by scan in Zashi of KS Animated QR code, right?
@Tman please check ^^^
As of block 2785916, there is more ZEC in Orchard vs Sapling
973k (Zcash address orchard-pool — 3xpl) vs 972k (Zcash address sapling-pool — 3xpl)
Orchard was activated in 2022, almost 4 years younger than Sapling in 2018
Zashi + Keystone works 
During further testing, it was discovered that the current firmware (1.8.1) displays Zcash in the list of coins and Zashi in the list of supported wallets only when using a 24-word seed phrase. However, when attempting to add a 25th word as a passphrase, Zcash support disappears.
If we assume this issue does not exist (as is the case with many other coins), Keystone provides a flexible and multi-level address structure. You can create three separate accounts based on three different seed phrases, with seamless switching between them using a six-digit PIN code. Additionally, you can set a passphrase (25th word) in the settings, allowing each of these three accounts to branch into an unlimited number of address trees.
I use a 12-words passphrase to add a Zcash wallet on Keystone. Still not sure 12-words passphrase is enough effective to support restore a Zcash wallet in the furture. In my memory, only transparent Zcash wallets support 12-words passphrase. No further testing…
No one worries about the reliability of 12-word cryptography in countries like Russia. It’s more about the ability to resist soldering iron and other unpleasant things.
Any hardware storage device should have a method to switch from one tree to another in an extreme case.