Price Speculation

Nothing wrong with that

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I don’t care what the biggest zcash price doomer says, this is massively bullish

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dear zcash team,
im your fans from 2017 earlier, and thanks to zcash im got some gain to change my life,
but im small holder, ive idea for zcash team in this early bull market,
please do budget for creating great video for newbie why zcash is the best and then look facebook ads, google ads, youtube ads agency so they can run ads from their account, easy approve, better set up, and great targeted people, i think it will be impactful. (easy way to create video is just hire influencer, no need to hire crypto influencer, you can hire other niche influencer, try to hire more then 5 influencer to give more video choise what video is the best to ads, the insight, ctr, and etc)
this method i use to sell item that i buy only 10$ then i can sell for 159$ with budget 60$ i can sell 3 item a day,
i can reach million people daily to if i want spent more budget,

i think this bull run you need more actively to spent good campaign ads, and then we can have massive price action,
that agency its self not expensive, on my country they just ask 500$ for a month to set up your campaign.
i know developer will busy for technical problem, so i suggest looking for agency that want to help set up your campaign massively, to target crypto people worldwide.

sorry my bad english, i know you will understand what i mean.
i think its not expensive at all, if we this this bullrun oportunity is coming so long 4 year to wait, we need do better on marketing, because so much other coin for now day.

you can easily reach 100k people a day, imagine how much people will buy zcash.

zcash infrastruktur for this bullrun is amazing, every exchange already have zcash listed, so we just need marketing that can reach big crowth.
i think we can reach more then 600$ this bullrun because i think this bullrun will be different, etf money, and people already can accept crypto currency as store a value.

i hope zcash team will be move faster, because this is 4 year wait…
and for today is the bullrun just begin.

hire mom niche influencer, beauty influencer, etc, they will provide you good video and fast creating video,
no need high tech video that people wont to see. people love story telling now day.
fb ads, youtube ads, tiktok ads, arghhh!! zcash price will be massively high this bullrun!!

fyi, many other crypto do this, so you need step up your marketing game.

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Let’s not forget. When things turn bullish, the scammers and manipulators also come back.

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we have Brave helping with advertising already.

its in testing phases for Zcash Media videos. Sure its not as big total possible reach as Facebook or Google etc ads but its a start i think.

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Zec is not an item.

Naval and Binance start to tweet about Zero Knowledge Proofs
interesting to watch the market
the disbelief is real

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Will it go now? Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to complete my goals, I wanted to buy more Zcash on the way down, I’ll have to complete my goals on the way up.

I believe we will never see Zcash at historic lows again. towards the moon.

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Zcash towards the moon.

we will get through this hard market.

oh ZEC is holding up surprisingly better than others :eyes:

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Zcash is the only one, among the 100 largest, to maintain an increase of more than 40% in 30 days. We are doing very well, we are doing very well.

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on CMC? I think Zcash is still out of top 100 on CoinGecko

Anyway, ZEC increasingly unlikely to go to 0 and that’s good for the future

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CMC is not accurate either, as they have an incorrect circulating supply for Zcash. Coingecko has the correct circulating supply.

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Zcash behaved well. I regret not buying when it reached the low of the day.

As of right now:

Total Chain supply: 15368859
Total Transparent supply: 13915472
Total Sprout supply: 26105
Total Sapling supply: 993750
Total Orchard supply: 433531
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Total Shielded Supply: 1453387
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We have seemed to have confirmed a breakout of $35. This is huge, next battle to overcome is $51

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I don’t understand what stops people from transferring coins to the pool orchard. I think it’s safer to leave it in the orchard, that way no one can see how many coins there are. To hide it even more, I transfer it from Binance to a secondary wallet, in the secondary wallet I transform it to the pool orchard and then take it and transfer it to my wallet where there are the coins. I don’t know if I’m right, but I think it’s more hidden and protected this way.

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Big holders and custodians like binance and DCG hold everything in a transparent wallet which is a fair whack of the supply.

Other investors hold them on exchanges or in hardware wallets which currently dont support shielded addresses

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@dismad How do I get these numbers of coins according to each pool? I believe this is a great indicator, the day people start to lose their fear of the government and start protecting their coins (switching to the most current pool), leaving the transparent wallet, the value of zcash could rise exponentially . speculation on my part: rich people who are truly rich, would love to have their money hidden, even more so when Zcash proves to be a good store of value. I believe that the most intense adoption of Zcash will come when people trust Zcash more and start to protect their coins by forgetting transparent addresses.

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@zkcroc Am I right in speculating that the value of zcash will start to rise exponentially the moment people start protecting their coins (stopping using transparent addresses)?

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I believe that people still don’t know or have no interest in using the true potential of Zcash (privacy) using Zcash only as investments or speculation. They forget that Zcash is much more than a way of investing, it is actually a protection against governments, avoiding confiscation and maintaining a certain layer of privacy. Zcash is not intended to be used for illegal acts, which is why we have optional privacy, the government can know the origin and destination of transactions in my wallet, but I have greater privacy to the point where it is not possible for anyone to know of my movements, without the possibility of knowing which wallet belongs to me. I think this is incredible for companies and rich people. how many times have we heard that company x sold or bought Bitcoin, person or company y moved their coins to a coinbase wallet, government z made sales on coinbase, making the speculative movement more intense due to the fact that it is easier to know when coins leave a certain wallet.

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I don’t see price appreciation dependent on the number of shielded coins specifically… however i think there will be correlation between the two.

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These numbers come directly from running the zcashd full node! See here and look for the ExtractSupplyInfo section.

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With most of the coins if you simply want to pay your monthly rent with crypto, your landlord will see all your balance on your address and if he digs a little deeper all your past (and future) transactions. That’s beyond dumb (and dangerous). Once people really start using crypto instead of being gamblers on centralized exchanges, they will figure that out quickly (probably the hard way unfortunately).

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despite Bitcoin being lateralized, Zcash increased its value. If Zcash continues to increase in value while Bitcoin remains in the price range, I believe we have a great chance of the value reaching levels of 2020/2021.

What holds me most here in the community is the fact that I communicate with people who believe in the project. For me, I would disappear, accumulate Zcash and only sell it in about 20 years when I retire. Sometimes I think that even if I retired I wouldn’t sell all the coins, I trust Zcash more in my portfolio than buying shares in companies.

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It is interesting to note the strength of ZEC when Bitcoin has big swings down recently. The question I wonder is if it will sustain this behavior?.. If Zcash is truly going to be used by folks like @gordonesTV out in Venezuela and by community members in other unstable areas then I would think price stability/strength would be important.

How has the volatility of ZEC impacted the Venezuelan community?
Do Venezuelans see ZEC as a good means of protecting their wealth and savings?

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What a good question.

The truth is that those of us who use and store ZEC in Venezuela are very few. It is part of the effort we are making: that more people know about Zcash and use it.

But the few of us who are here using ZEC do believe in Zcash, even if its price goes down or up. In fact, we always tell new users that the important thing about Zcash is not so much its price, but its technology, and the preservation of privacy and security.

Of course, we want ZEC to go up! :rocket: :fire:

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In my view, Zcash is undervalued, there is nothing wrong with Zcash technology, the only problem we have is the development fund (in my opinion it doesn’t affect anything). I believe the low value refers to the regulation of privacy coins. I believe that one day, I hope it’s soon, the value of zcash will explode upwards and everyone who spoke negatively about Zcash will reconsider their thoughts. I believe we are in the ideal time, there are few of us, around 700 thousand or a little more, we will all be whales, while in the future many will buy ZEC at a very high price like Bitcoin. What will we do when the price goes up a lot? Let’s spend the coins, but keep the coin in our wallet, without selling everything. At least I will be like that, I don’t have the courage to sell everything and deposit it in a bank, as I feel safer with a Zec wallet.

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@gordonesTV Is the government blocking other exchenges? Did the government say anything regarding this ban in Venezuela?

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Back to top 100 :partying_face:

Notice that $ZEC has gone up the most (among its peers) in the last 7 days

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Mind blowing how much crap sits in the top 100 apart from ZEC and a couple of other coins. A cleansing is long overdue.

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@tokidoki This top 100 is on which website?

I didn’t imagine Zcash would take off so much. we will never see Zcash at lows again.

coingecko. they track the correct number of ZEC issued.

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coinmarketcap uses bit wrong data and calculates Zcash mcap with higher amount of coins in circulation so it puts it also higher than 100 on the list. its misinfo but they havent been able to fix it for long time :upside_down_face:

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No. So far only Binance, and they never give an official message.

So far in the country is blocked:

Binance
Microsoft (and all its services, Teams, Skype, Xbox, etc.)
Pinterest
Twitter (X)
Proton
Signal
MercadoLibre
Statista

And surely other services…

This is not in the news.

Guys, I have a question: is it possible for a government or several governments to be able to block a cryptocurrency? if the government or several governments want, can they block Zcash, Bitcoin, etherium and others?

No. To block a crypto you would need to block the entire Internet. Just like with what’s happening in Venezuela and China people will find ways around any blocked content.

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Nope! They can’t do that!

They can neither stop the network nor prevent people from connecting and opening a decentralized wallet and making transactions.

That’s why this technology is so powerful and dictatorships don’t like it.

What they can restrict are centralized platforms and wallets.

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the work you’re doing for the Spanish community is awesome! its interesting this price stability and strength we are seeing with Zcash against Bitcoin volatility lately. Hopefully it stays this way through your journey to Spain!

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Thanks a lot!

We definitely have to work on visualization, awareness and education.

It is not easy, but it is a work of constancy, of talking about Zcash and the importance of privacy in every possible space.

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Looks to have played out so far, price currently sitting just below the breakout support level, ZEC needs to form a base and rally from here or its pain town

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Something big (and bad) seems to be brewing in the US stock market. And since crypto has more or less been tied to it via the ETF’s, probably not a very good time to have any leverage anywhere.

Im not so sure to be honest, people have been calling for a recession for years and it hasn’t happened even through some real economic turmoil, (wars etc). Interest rate cuts look likely within the next 12 months also, so I’m punting on a risk on environment

Yes but for maximum effect these events have to happen when no one is expecting them anymore. Anyway the path should become much clearer in the next few weeks.

Are we ready for the pumping? :smiley:

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One should wonder why is the Federal Reserve exactly panic cutting interest rates when unemployment in the US is at all time low, stock markets and gold at all time highs as is bitcoin more or less. It’s called assymmetric information, they know something you don’t…

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I have some stocks in the financial market, and I have a small profit of about 10%. I confess that I am starting to build up some cash, and if the market falls, I will buy more. Remember that a crisis is synonymous with opportunity. You don’t need to worry about a crisis or a downturn in the markets, it is even good to have this type of volatility. Now is the time to save money. When the crisis hits, you can take your cash and start buying little by little, taking advantage of the lows, without buying everything at once.

3D and 1W Charts
looks so good


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I believe it is now the moon

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now it’s the moon.

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up 17% in 24hrs :rocket:

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towards 24000 dollars

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ZEC was up :arrow_upper_right: against BTC when BTC is at ATH. I think there is something beautiful about this fact. May this continue after halving.

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Zcash rising higher and higher.

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@tokidoki what did you see in Zcash?

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Uncensorable cash, a treasure so bright
Good for a coffee, or taking a flight
Secure as a fortress, strong and free
Escape from big corps, big govs of tyranny

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ZEC is beating multiple TOP memecoins in last 30d performance :wink:

like APU, MOG and GIGA

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This makes me wonder: is the current value of Zcash something manipulated, out of reality? what is the profile of the people who speculate on Zcash (companies, wealthy people, ordinary people leveraged to the extreme, someone taking advantage and manipulating the value of zcash so that the value does not increase or simply the value is correct and there is nothing strange about that all)?

Good group is this I,m interested in this kind of talk… when I can speak free…I have speak this time with some crypto hackers and traders… the problem here is that we hope for something but
dont know the real thing.

  1. This monitoring zone here Jasmy and Zec have some usecase… when jasmy got down now is x10 from monitoring zone… they say price is manipulated but that is coming from them…the problem for zec is that utility is so low…

2… Here from this org nobody care for price, they make something and they are paid… the real problem is if they care they can not do so much because somebody else is manipulating…

  1. IF binance is selling all Zec… this org must think to move along and plan without binance, because if they sold that means they will delist… that happen with XMR but they are ready without binance and here is not the case…
    4… same is happen with xrp and some other coins that /btc pair si going ATL for manipulation…
    5 this space si rigged someone is controlling all market…alot of people come in market lose money, they later know how this market is running and say all is scum.
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Perps are by definition leveraged instruments. This market you’re looking at isn’t physically settled, it’s USD settled. People betting money that’s all.

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yes & yes

its all manipulated lol

its a cex plus bonus is owner is in jail lol

how can it be not so clear lol :rofl: :rofl:

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Zcash on Binance is a threat to Zcash & same with all MOE & Privacy coins/Coin with Privacy features

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Stop accusing binance for all the Zcash shitshow we had from ZF and ECC all these years.

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For this price… nobody need to get a dolar… First this foundation or similar must give feedback and ways for price movement. IF BInance is shorting only will save this people is that privacy is total colapsing… at the other side… must explain this underachivments because 6 months only looking for new finance… or project is free to go to Zero, or this people take responsibility for price so low is…

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Anybody knows if Binance really stopped ZEC withdrawals due to a low hot wallet balance? Why don’t they refill their hot wallet?

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Says low hot wallet balance, so we have to take them at their word.

Several other coins have similar tags.

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I guess there’s been a lot of withdrawal. BTC, ETH and USDC is the same. Perhaps to wallets of US-based users after the election?

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It is likely that it’ll be harder (more expensive?) to acquire ZEC after halving.

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I believe that the selling force is at an end, many people have accumulated and others no longer want to sell. In my opinion, the trend is upward.

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I have merged a duplicative topic (Zcash Price Speculation on Binance) into this one.

Please keep all price speculation in this one thread. We don’t need several threads on the same topic.

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Now the EMA also broke
damn

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ZEC has such an ugly chart 1-4 hours compared to other alt coins. ZEC went up last a few days but struggling to hold that position while other coins are holding their price.

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Dude, hours is not an interesting timeframe for most people in this forum. Perhaps years, perhaps decades, those are the important ones.

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We are in peak bullrun FOMO right now with Bitcoin. Until we see where it finally settles I don’t think any alts will keep up.

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I have been holding ZEC since 202- 2021 and stupidly I didint sell all at the top. That’s literally more than 10X down I have been experiencing since 2022. :sweat_smile:

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@zooko time to sell your house and pump your coin

We are pretty much well on the way to the euphoria stage in the everything bubble. When and why it pops is anyone’s guess, but I suspect some of these assets will never fully recover in the aftermath.

weekly looks great
1-4h is too painful to watch xd

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can anybody explain why ZEC price action been so pathetic for so many recent years??? i mean lets get real here XMR who’s our number 1 competitor chilled through the entire bear market near 150 but then heres ZEC and it cant even get close to $50 a coin… I know that theres still tons of old Founders holding huge bags that they got for basically zero cost basis but cmon havent they run out of coins to dump yet? Do we believe that the Binance monitoring tag has really hurt this much or could it be that exchanges are basically letting short speculators hypothecate fake ZEC to dump at the margin? with the halving in like a week or two i’m lost for words that ZEC didnt even hold support near 45 or 50 bucks

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I believe in Zcash, I also believe that in POS people will hold more, speculation should decrease.

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Price move with the market Bitcoin is down today, ZCASH move accordingly. Here on the forum is a lot of discussions going on about development ZCASH. is more than just a store of value unlike Bitcoin, XMR you can’t compare the two because without. ZCASH that token would be nonexistent plus ZCASH is not being used on the black market so. The price with will not trade at a attract price how XMR is currently trading.

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ZEC inflation rate has been higher than XMR. At the same time, unfortunately, ZEC miners are dominated by large miners who immediately sell ZEC for BTC. After halving, things will change. After PoS, things will change. After ZSA, things will change. Heck, after Keystone integration with Zashi, we’ll see a huge change. So, I’m optimistic of the future.

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I understand how you feel. The thing is, almost every time ZEC hits a new target these days, it struggles to hold the support level, as happened over the past couple of days, leading to it being dumped. Some say we’re not in altcoin season yet, but I’m pretty pessimistic about it, especially with ZEC.

I don’t know about others, but once ZEC hits my target price, I plan to sell. I’m not aiming for a huge price gain like $300 or more. As a ZEC holder since 2020-2021 who went through the tough bear market of 2022-2024, I initially thought it was better to hold for the long term, so I didn’t sell in 2022. In hindsight, selling would have been the right move, given the gains I could have achieved.

Yes, ZEC’s protocols and privacy features are valuable, but at the end of the day, I’m here to make a profit.

Note: This is just my prediction/speculation and opinion. Honestly, I hope I’m wrong.

All the gains ZEC made last week are about to break while many major alt coins are holding their gains. :sweat_smile:.

This could also mean, ZEC gains will be larger to its relative starting point. $40 ZEC at halving sounds super cheap.

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One thing ZEC missing is the hype/momentum. In last cycle we hard a lot about ZEC on SNS, media and YouTube but now days, there is hardly any. Also it was in top 50 crypto in 2021 but today it’s rarely make it in top 100.

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I knew Zcash when it was among the top 50, but I’m not sad to see Zcash out of the top 100. I believe that Zcash is cheap, the longer it stays that way, the bigger its explosion will be in the future. I believe that in the future its value will increase exponentially. As I said before, Zcash has everything it needs to be side by side with Bitcoin or even surpass Bitcoin’s value. We have an excellent project, there’s nothing wrong with privacy or the embedded technology. I’m calm, one day the value will increase, if not today, it will be tomorrow (in the future).

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Go to Chrome and translate this Brazilian website. This is a global trend. Cryptocurrencies with public blockchains will be tracked by governments, whether in Brazil, the United States or any other country. One day people will realize this and there will be a strong migration to privacy cryptocurrencies. We will see Zcash and Monero fighting to see which one has the best privacy technology, which one hides data better.

I believe that on that day we will see the value of Zcash rising exponentially and I will be riding that wave. I will not sell Zcash because I am not following Bitcoin, I will hold Zcash and buy only Zcash because I believe in the technology and its potential.

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That’s the spirit.
And like Victor Hugo once said: “Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time as come”.
And this time will come.

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I’ve just realized that only a few months ago ZEC was at ATL :eyes:

Now, it’s up by over 150% from that and it’s not even halving yet :coconut:

gm folks :rocket:

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imo its cause the powers that be are stuck on selling Zcash as digital private cash even though everyone knows cash sucks… not to mention that there is no meme for ZEC while the crypto world is in a memecoin supercycle. basically were boxed into a corner where we all have to pray that people come to us since we’re obviously not going to them… all the bs opinions besides this halving is gonna help out price a ton guaranteed cause dont forget theres also an extra 12% of the inflation ZEC going into the lockbox. so basically we’ve got a halving on steroids happening next week. price action in and of itself is probably the best marketing weve got at this point in the crypto cycle… a huge pump back to $100 a coin would do a million times more marketing than all of the fancy clean cut YouTube videos have done btw not throwing shade im just saying that price action is king media is in the backseat

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I also think that the biggest marketing is the price, the expectation of profit. With the halving, we will have a scarcer environment and this will help raise the price. We still have a long way to go, but as soon as the POS is active, there will be more people accumulating and this will make Zcash scarcer, even more so with the end of mining and the end of sales by miners. I believe that we have a way to go, but soon Zcash will begin a journey where prices will start to rise and rise. I confess that I would not stake, I prefer to keep my coins stored and off the internet, but certainly many will accumulate just to generate interest and profits with Staking taking advantage of the POS.

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looking forward to seeing how Zcash behaves in the days following the halving.

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I don’t think it will do anything in a few days time coz Bitcoin had halving in April and price didn’t really go up till October. Also I am sure it will have less effect to Zcash than Bitcoin.
ZEC price went up a few month after halving in 2020-2021 but ZEC was more popular back then.

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Halving… :partying_face:

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I think you underestimate the selling pressure from miners, some of which have publicly stated they immediately sell ZEC for BTC. With halving, the selling pressure from miners will be halved.

Now then, do you think those who have held ZEC in its worst years price-wise would be willing to part with it just for a few bucks?

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My friend, I survived 2020 - 2024 and honestly it’s really rough and emotional roller coaster last 2 years.
However historically speaking, price didn’t go up immediately after halving in 2020. It had a parabolic run from January to April in 2021.

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It’s all still very recent, with many coins being distributed. I believe that after the third halving, it will have a much more significant impact. The development fund will end, miners will receive less and less, we will have the transition to POS, people will hold on to Zcash more, and there are still CBDCs (people and companies being monitored). I believe in Zcash. I took advantage of the volatility to lower my average price. Just as I entered Zcash between 2020 and 2021, many also entered when the price was rising. If we survive this period, we will have peace from now on as time passes and Zcash evolves and matures. We had the opportunity to get to know Zcash, even for those who entered only thinking about profit. Over time, we got to know the project, participated in the community, and understood the essence of Zcash. Together, we will contribute to the evolution of Zcash.

I believe that after the third halving we will see Zcash rising stronger and stronger, with Zcash becoming increasingly scarce due to the halving and POS with people accumulating. I could be wrong, but even if this never happens I will not sell Zcash.

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might not be a popular opinion, but I believe ZEC/BTC is exponentially more important than ZEC/USD. and yes, ZEC is up in both :arrow_upper_right:

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Update on my original thesis.

Wow what a strong breakout today! Price surged through the 60s and skipped them completely. We’ve now touched the next SR line I had marked, so it will be interesting to see what happens next.

I won’t be surprised for a bit of a pull back, but on the back of that momentum, it could keep going to $100…

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very good.

While price is finally pumping, Exodus wallet has issue with ZCASH and can’t send/swap. GREAT!!!

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Interesting…The same thing happened to me on Exodus! I did a swap to ZEC a couple days ago. The swap worked but when I tried to send it, it gave me an error.

I decided to download. YWallet and entered in my Exodus Phrase. YWallet shows the ZEC, but when I tried to send it I got an error as well. So, I’m trying to figure out next steps or a solution.

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Keep me in a loop pls.

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Which error? Which version of Ywallet?

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Hey guys…It worked! I don’t know what changed, but I was able to send the ZEC out of the YWallet today. :pray:

I believe I have the latest YWallet (Version: 1.8.0+554) as I downloaded it over the weekend from the App Store.

@bobseiji Give that a try. Download the YWallet and then enter in your Exodus Phrase. Your ZEC should appear in the YWallet. Let me know if it worked for you as well. :+1:

Thanks for dropping me a line @conradoplg I probably wouldn’t have tried again anytime soon :slight_smile:

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I looked up the Btc to Zec conversion and its crazy. What would be a fair conversion?

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im feeling the fomo now

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Someone just sold 100K+ ZEC on Binance.

Hopefully, a short trader. :smiley:

holy cow u were not joking about that either…

The person who sold 100k of Zec will be at a loss. I don’t believe it is a sold operation, perhaps just profit taking.

Im sad we are valued the same as fart coin…

you should be happy we are standing next to farts. farts are invisible just like Zcash.

hopefully Zcash smell better tho. :rofl: we live in a meme world.

all meme coins are worth close to 20x more than all privacy coins atm
130b vs 7.5b

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Careful with those silent but deadly gases. :cowboy_hat_face:

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A fart may go unnoticed, but privacy is like silence: you only notice it when it dissipates.

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Yes the more idiotic a crypto project is, the bigger its valuation and popularity.
A bit like Michael Saylor that hated Bitcoin at $400 but just seems to love it so much at $100000.

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Maybe $75-79 was the cycle top. :weary:

with all the ZK airdrops lately and soon coming, $70 ZEC is a godsend

Followed by god dump!!!
Idea of holding support line doesn’t exist with ZEC.
Die hard ZEC lovers saying “more buying opportunity” every time goes down but how many Buying opportunities they want while there is no selling opportunity.

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I understand that it is frustrating, but I still believe that we will see Zcash at values that we have never seen before (I say higher values). In my opinion, Zcash is still very new, we still have a lot of selling pressure, but I believe we will never see Zcash break the lows again.

With the end of the developers’ fund, with the implementation of the hybrid POS, I believe that the sales pressure will decrease, it has already decreased with the halvin, and the sales pressure will decrease even more.

I will remain firm without selling anything for the next 20 years. I will only buy more when I reach the purchase price I already have set. I will only sell in case of need and urgency, such as unemployment or illness.

I agree with you.

i believe ZEC to be super undervalued anywhere under the last ATH in mcap aka $3.5b aka $220 per ZEC

because Zcash is in way better shape overall than in 2021 on top of the market.

and the cycle isnt over as most coins from past cycles havent even reached their old ATHs

this is just my dumb opinion tho. dont invest wat u dont want to lose etc.

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Agreed. IMHO, as long as ZEC is below LTC,BCH,BSV, for example, its undervalued. On the other hand, with prices this low it allows more folks to accumulate cheaper – a very good thing. I think its funny how folks view the glass :ocean: either half full, or half empty. :tumbler_glass:

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zcash on the way to the moon.

ZEC is still worth less than $0.00008M - just chill, guys. See you in 2032.

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you can say that “the top is in” only after BTC dominance gets to a new low.
right now is way too early to tell

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cycle tops not gonna happen until at least like 125k per BTC… so when that price level hits then for ZEC id guess count on a little 50% pop before the entire market goes into selloff mode for a couple years. crypto is insane how its created such insanely similar boom and bust cycles many times in a row. my guess about ZEC specifics is probably somewhere between 250-500 bucks a coin

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Following the supply halving, even if demand remains consistent with what we’ve experienced over the challenging past four years, ZEC is anticipated to increase in value. During the challenging period, ZEC has faced several hurdles: it lacked hardware wallet support, encountered issues with unusable wallets due to on-chain spam, and had limited payment integrations. However, today we see progress with the introduction of Keystone, Zashi, and Flexa.

Are you not entertained?

Are-You-Not-Entertained-Gladiator - Young Adventuress

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The first time BTC traded at $60 was in July 2013. Bitcoin got its first commercially available hardware wallet in August of 2014 and BTC was trading around $400. I would not be surprised to see Zcash do something crazy over the next 12 months. Maybe when the next bear market starts price can settle somewhere above $200…

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I also believe that Zcash will start to have increasingly higher values. In my opinion, Zcash is still new on the market, there is still a lot of sales pressure from miners, and from everyone who receives project financing to improve Zcash. There will be a day when all this sales pressure will decrease, as the development fund will end, in addition to the transformation into a hybrid POS, people will start to collect more than sell, it will be like a savings for some people who participate in validating the Hybrid POS.

Zcash has a very advanced and complex technology, there are projects that are targeting Zcash, as well as implementing the technology, such as mina protocol and others, this is good to validate Zcash technology.

I believe we have a successful future. It may be difficult at first, but we will reap the rewards. we are evolving.

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Crypto booms and busts cycles were also in part due to national fiat currencies fluctuating wildly, thanks to the more and more erratic behaviors of their respective central banks.
These entities are now caught between a rock and a hard place, either leaving credit tight and provoking a massive deleveraging event that will wipe everything in its path, or reembarking on the money goes brrr path and transforming fiat currencies into meme coins.
In both scenarios it’s still much safer to stay in crypto.

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Josh stopped writing weekly updates
no altseason for Zcash this year :frowning:

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Did you miss me? :wink:

Just a pause until after the Z|ECC summit which wrapped up today. :wink: This next one will be long.

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The prices are always going down, and people are getting more and more disappointed.

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Just buy more. If you’re disspointed sell $ZEC and buy something that only goes up (lmao)

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cheer up!
2024 was the best year for Zcash
and 2025 will be even better

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Welcom to Zcash.
Been holding since 2020 and my biggest regret was i didnt sell it in 2022 coz thought keeping my investment long term was a good idea. Turned out i was wrong. The problem with ZEC today is that its simply not enough liquidity and miners sell it as soon as they mine.

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not even to mention that ECC & ZF are sitting on mountains of ZEC that they’re dumping in large quantities every month :frowning: its like we all are sitting around suffering this meme

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YEP!! :+1: Its like ZEC is made for Miners/ Devs to dump. I am not an expert with TA but its so obvious with ZEC chart. Every pump followed by dump.

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This should be the Top 5 in my opinion according to use case at this point in time.

  1. BTC
  2. ETH
  3. BNB
  4. TRX
  5. ZEC

What is your opinion?

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Its $50 now. What a joke.

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That’s still a break even price (50) for miners to keep mining. Naturally the miners will protect a level of value by means of any means. But if they are the only ones preserving a level of value, eventually they will not be able to hold it.
POS may give a chance to Zcash to get some recovery but first, a reasonabe pull back to somewhere between 30 and 40 bucks per coin IMO.

We are in bull market you know that. $40 or especially $30 range is honestly bear market range. :pray:

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Then we will need a bear market again to be successful. IMO.

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Maybe $79 was the cycle top. :sweat_smile:

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Agreed. According to the 8-year decline at this level, the next cycle top maybe 16 from a pessimistic point of view.

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I am lost for words…

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$45. Maybe Zec Bear market has started already during this bull market cycle. Dead……

alts will top only after Bitcoin dominance falls to 40% range or lower

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Ok folks,

i took the trouble to look at zcash and bitcoin and i like to look for patterns especially when i get the impression that something is wrong.

So I took a look at the price development of bictoin and zcash.

What came out of it? Bitcoin had a dry spell of 6 years in total until it broke out, and that right at the beginning. 2011- 2017

Now we come to zcash. Zcash has risen much higher from the beginning and has also had a much faster price development in the last 6 years but

the difference is that zcash had 2 long dry spells
namely from 2018 - 2021 and from 2022 - 2025

but in total both had a dry spell period of about 6 years. My honest opinion I suspect due to this manipulation and trading behavior of zcash that we will soon see the same as with bitcoin and that is the breakout.

This is not guaranteed, but it all makes sense to me now. Zcash was even if you look at it closely much more successful than bitcoin the first 6 years.

Cheers.

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dont know what drugs your on but ill take some lmfao… Zcash and Bitcoin are uncomparable… BTC literally was the genesis of an entire new tech industry… ZEC is one of thousands of copy cats that showed up 5-8 years later and hypothesize to have beaten Bitcoin at its own game. Sorry but for every ZEC style of chart compared to BTC, there are 100 others just like it… go dig around in the graves of other 2014-2017 era PoW bitcoin copies and youll see all the charts basically look the same… not a coincidence certainly not a conspiracy lol

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Zcash price chart tells an inaccurate story. Only chart that matters is the mcap chart and that tells a very compelling story.

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It also makes sense what you said.
There was a similarity between PC’s and Mac’s though and cant even tell who copied who. But IBM came out way first before Macs, yet iphone and Androids are all doing ok.
Technology is created unlike physical gold, and in all good versions of technology, with proper management, it should gain value and not decline.

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ZEC is the only coin I have that hasnt given me a good return, even though I have been holding it for 5 years. The ZEC chart speaks volumes. The chart clearly tells that nobody is buying at the moment but everyone is selling. :skull:
Its so ironic that we are talking about undervalue price of ZEC during bull market.

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If nobody is buying then who is selling? Miners and people that work and get paid with the coins?

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The reason is traders just love to sell bottoms and buy tops

But the high buy you mentioned does not exist in ZEC, because it has no tops.

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Exactly, no tops in sight for Zcash. Doesn’t mean it can’t go much lower from here (or not) but at least you know it has not reached a generational top that will never be revisited (like many many other assets out there).
Like the great Jesse Livermore said: “The stock market is never obvious.It is designed to fool most of the people , most of the time”.
Same can be said for every markets, including crypto. Also at one point people will have to stop reasoning in fiat terms, because it won’t mean anything anymore due to deflation and/or inflation going out of control.

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An error has crept in, it should say “in the first years” not last 6
The core of my message was dry spell, waiting time, 6 years.
For a better understanding :eyes: :sweat_smile:

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TBH, your comparison is meaningless. BTC is a pioneer and evangelist, while ZEC is not.

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Then I wonder why they are here, “meaningless” was just your statement.

$44……its seriously becoming a dead coin. Died in middle of bull market.
No matter how great ZEC tech is, for me its worth nothing if price is keep going down. I dont marry with projects or ideas but i do with profits.

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The main issue with flat prices in general is that most of the speculative investment is being spent on meme coins, which has taken a lot wind out of the bull run for more established projects.

However, this probably means the down turn later on will be less severe and price appreciation we see in zec now is a more organic and true representation of how the project in maturing

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Before this bull market started, the smart-money rotated capital from gold to crypto.

Right now, smart money trading bets, now on USD versus gold with some diversification to BTC, because these 3 represents strong value on global trade, ( in times of cold wars among big nations).
Altcoins are neglected until they print more USD.
Somehow thats what i see.

Zec will probably go down to 36.5 and thats when the smart-money buy at dollar cost average.

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Thats a clearly bear market price range. I mean it already went down to $40 now which is the same range as Aug last year so yeah, i dont see any optimism. Dont know how some of you guys can be so optimistic looking at ZEC charts.
Many other alts chart didnt go down this far in this “bull market”. I wish i can be as positive as some of you guys

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All alts are hangin in there including Etherem. If BTC goes down to the mid 80k, every alt will go down harder and perhaps ETH among the alts will trade 2.7 to 3K in that range then Zec will range 36.5 to 40 range.
More Bearish than Bullish because one of the major players of BTC (BTC as the core magnetic force for every alt) MicroStrategy keep buying from recycled credit as capital, its not organic growth. And BTC has not have the proper pullback yet.
But if BTC goes down to mid 80K and will consosidate from there then all crypto will consolidate as well until the next BTC halving and stronger bull market after.

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If this thread is an indication of anything, is that everything written in here is usually a counter signal.

If you put the posts in this thread, timestamped, next to the price chart, you’ll quickly realize that everything is usually flipped.

People in here post with emotion (whether positive or negative), whereas the market responds without emotion.

Personally I just buy when sentiment in here is low and sell when its positive. Overall accumulating more over time with the same principal.

Works with X, telegram, discord, or wherever a project’s holder community is.

People cry, I buy.

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You have a good point.
Id also consider that inorganic push or pull from market movers into a certain range where they plan to trade in swing trading mode. The posibility to go to a certain range, and that next level or next range where it can probably go. Range and Limits.

The chart has been going exactly same with my pessimistic guess and view for quite while now .
My pessimistic view is it will keep going down or stay this way and will never see above $100 this cycle. Hope that will help your buying opportunities. :sweat_smile:

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Whale here real zec privacy is going to moon.

I decided new year resolution I am buying USD 100k of ZEC every month in 2025 and will hold for at least a year LFG. I cannot start my own thread so I will post progress here. Will post my T address here in sec for some fun celebration or tears we will see.

First buy today $100k @ $43

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lfg!

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Wow. Godspeed to you!

Zaylor i was able to confirm your buy. This is not how it should work. Please download a ZASHI wallet and shield your coins.

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I like your philosophy in this price speculation.

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He used the T address the reason why you were able to see it.

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Sure, ofc. Gl

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Are you sure you want to do this? I mean, I’m totally cool with it, but you could end up losing a ton. Just saying.

Shield. Asap

May the Gods bless ye, valiant warrior, steadfast in the face of darkness! Let their divine favor shield thee in battle, their wisdom guide thy path, and their strength burn bright within thy soul. With sword in hand and fire in thy heart, march forth, for destiny bows only to the bold!

Wow. Impressive commitment!

Shielded input.
Could be moving coins he already owns.

Definitely not a coinbase purchase.

If the orgs can’t stop liquidating ZEC to pay the bills… this project has got no shot in hell at recovering its already badly tarnished brand perception…

whens the last time ECC even released a real transparency report, not just Josh’s happy-go-lucky camp fire update threads?

dropping a harsh 40-50% in midst of a broader crypto bull market is exactly the way to burn the hands of anyone who possibly decided to dabble with Zcash in the past 3-5 months… price (wealth) needs to be protected here or else we’re all terminally screwed building sand castles during hurricane season…

our despised competitor &btw the leader in crypto privacy has been protecting its users and investors wealth for YEARS now all while also giving them funcitonally equivalent privacy protections… We gotta do something to save this damn market people anyone have any million dollar ideas?

I bought my first round of dollar cost average at this level.
I’ve based my decision on this buy on the charts.
The Shorter will soon buy, price can go up to 41 from 38.


holy shit u weren’t lying…

$12,000 down in merely hours… be careful here cause Josh and Jack got tons of ZEC sitting there with only one button available (SELL)

This project is dead.
Probably never going to see even 2-300 range coz miners and devs are keep dumping it. Its literally became the coin for them to live fancy life at this stage.

ZEC has no liquidity to pump anymore and even when it goes around like $80 like couple of month ago, they cant stay in that price range. Have a look at ZEC weekly chart. Weekly candle is red for past 5 weeks straight in a mid of bull market. Which major alts have chart like that ? I cant see any. Also When was the last time ZEC has 5 consecutive weeks red candles??? 2022 crush was the last time.

We are in bull market and some die hard ZEC fans still think this is just another buying opportunity, they are so blind at this stage sorry. Buy low and sell high doesnt apply with ZEC anymore. Its rather “buy low and stay low”.

If anyone still has appetite to hold for another 5-10 years, good luck to them.

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One play to consider is that the miners have to protect investments, theyve spent some capital buying ASICs right after the latest halving. They had to upgrade.
Theyll ( the miners) will try not to sell at this price and at this early since Zec had the latest halving just last November.
Onother play is Grayscale, they are still keeping 1 Privacy coin as part of their portfolio and this is Zcash.
I dont think Grayscale will sell at this price unless Zcash becomes an ETF (theyll sell synthetic Zec to buy real Zec) which, it is less likely to happen. Zec poor price action performance and also Zcash went thru an ICO, it will be very very hard to be approved as an ETF.

Despite all of this, i will still buy in a certain range in a low RSI. Ill still be able to sell with profits just in case or utilize this coin for private transactions.

I bought at 38 and im ok with this, it may go up to 41 but ill not sell at that price. Ill wait to make another buy at 36 if it goes down there.


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i think your entire opinion is based on a wrong assumption.
are you sure we are in a bull market right now?
can you find 10 coins that did MUCH better than Zcash in the last 6 months?

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I agree with you. Its just my full on rage emotion base opinion.
Having me said that there are many coins which went 5X from very bottom just like ZEC. Not exactly 6 month as many other bottomed in 2022. NOT in 2024 like ZEC.
Sorry couldnt bother find 10.

SOL
XRP
Doge
ADA
LINK
SUI

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its cool i feel you man,
i have a history of being extra emotional in the forum :smiley:

more coins that did better: HBAR,IOTA, ALGO, XLM and few others.
this year i am happy, because i diversified, and could also enjoy gains from other coins.

however when i analyze the entire market, it looks like the most interesting part is not here yet

ETH is in a 2+ years downtrend at ETH/BTC
Layer-2’s in bad condition - ARB, OP, IMX, STRK, Matic, Loopring
ZK-coins like ZK,Mina,Aleo,Starket despite being best tech are doing bad.
2021 cycle coins FIL,ICP,DOT,ATOM
2017 coins with product like TEZOS,BAT,ENJ and others doing bad
Dino coins Dash, XMR,
even LTC is doing worse despite being added to Fidelity and ETF news.
(ZEN is relatively correlated)

Bitcoin dominance is still in the 3 year ATH, means there is still Max potential for Altseason.
we can see in 2017 and 2021 how Bitcoin Dominance behave in alt seasons.

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I get very emotional about ZEC coz ZEC is the only coin that i have which i havent made a good gain even after 5 years. Yes i could sell in 2022 before the crush but i didnt coz thought keeping for long term has better potential but i was very wrong.

I like your username btw.:laughing::+1:

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Congrats, you’ve managed to rack up some serious losses—no surprise there.

Serious loss in crypto is -80%

If zcash goes to 21 which I think it will this month you want to buy everything you can and hold it for a year. Not financial advice.

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Some people really say “Zcash is dead” in a Zcash forum?

The project is so dead there are more than 1 million ZEC in Orchard

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Looking at the price chart, it’s pretty much dead—just struggling at this point.

Congrats, you’re already down $25,000. If you’d gone with XMR instead, you’d barely have any losses.

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lol people trying to stop him from buying zcash in the zcash forum, we need some rewiring here in the community

Monero agent here. I’m not surprised you can’t see the bigger picture.

The flags are unnecessary. People are free to express their opinions on Zcash price in this thread that’s why its called “Price Speculation”.

The entire market is in the red with news about trade wars heating up.

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like youre saying its cause the Dev teams refuse to protect ZEC investor wealth… ZF sitting in 55 BTC but they continue to liquidate ZEC… ECC sitting on a massive bag of Starkware & Agoric yet they liquidate ZEC hand over fist.

if users & investors cant trust wealth protection here then there is no point to privacy… private what??? if it costs 50-90% of your wealth then the privacy doesnt matter.

if they dont make it stop soon like many others are saying this project might never be recoverable :frowning: the insiders spent too many years turning up their nose at the idea of ZEC price… now look at the mess it caused

same here man… and i hate to be so negative during a bull market but reality of it here is that ZEC investors gotta get loud if we’re ever gonna get paid any respect by the Dev team leaders

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Its not dead IMO. I bought more ar 31.50 and this is my second round buying at dollar cost average. Right now my average is $33.0 per coin.
Im expecting a reversal 10am Monday New York time. But if it goes down even more then ill buy more.
After my third accumulation round, ill put all my coins on 5x leverage trade. But only Long 50% of the coins, the other 50% will serve as a backup so that my Liquidation number will be at around $10 per coin.
This however is my second option ( to trade it).
My first option is to hold it.

Yeah but what does that mean anyway? That just means someone is holding in Orchad pool right ?? Am i correct ? If so that just means some people are holding it just like any other coins but if that doesnt pump the price what is the point ??

people are saying its dead for a reason… last cycle around Feb 2… ZEC was basically $90 a coin… today 4 whole years later we’re at a shred above $30 a coin… thats a write up for a crypto altcoin that died. (don’t even bother to look at the hashrate chart, the SPAM attack problems, the delays, declining network nodes, or the no-hurry-no-worry roadmaps)

in Feb 2 2021 Bitcoin was at like $37,000 and today its at about $96,000 means a nice 150% increase… compare that to ZEC which is down 60% in 4 years…

the numbers on the chart are primary marketing of a project’s values, principles, ideals, and aspirations… so you tell me, you want something up 150% in 4 years, or down 60% in 4 years?

this entire community let itself slip into complacency while the teams convinced us all to never concern ourselves with the chart… to everyone’s demise it seems nowadays

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This is a good range IMO for a buying opportunity.

Good opportunity to buy Zec with Leverage Trading Strategy.

Lecture:

I bought more Zec at 31.50 and this is my second round buying at dollar cost average. My first round was at 38.0

Right now my average is $33.0 per coin.

Im expecting a reversal 10am Monday New York time.

But if the reversal doesnt happen and it goes down even more then ill buy more.

After my third accumulation round, ill put all my coins on 5x leverage trade. But only Long 50% of the coins, the other 50% will serve as a backup so that my Liquidation number will be at around $10 per coin.

This, however, is my second option ( to trade it).

My first option is to hold it until i see a reversal candle (hammer).

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Nah, i dont want to put one more my hard earning dollar to ZEC. All i need is decent selling opportunity but never got it with ZEC.

So now, only people who are still in profit are people who bought at very bottom in 2024. Everyone else is in loss. Good, at least i dont feel lonely!!

What do you say to someone who does nothing but beats a drum relentlessly about how silly people are to believe, but yet says I still haven’t sold… “All I need is a decent selling opportunity”… “but never got it” Wouldn’t that have been anytime before you started bashing ZEC in this forum?

In the face of positives like, Oh I don’t know… Zashi, (software wallet) Keystone (hardware wallet) Payment integration (Flexa, SPEDN ) All of these critical integrations there is the voice of, “Run, Run for your lives”

Ya, I just bought some more down here too. Sorry buddy, not selling into your bag.

But I applaud your effort to shake the tree of all the weak hands.

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I doubled my buy at 28 per coin. I am now average cost at 30 per coin.

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Its a freedom of speech. You can express your idea, feelings and opinion and i can too. I will be over the moon if ZEC hits like $100 but i dont see it anymore thats all. Every cycle top is going lower and lower with ZEC.

As far as i understand, this thread is about “Price Speculation” so people can speculate. If my rage comments about ZEC price shake weak hands, i mean, wow i didnt know i have that much influence for ZEC.

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Freedom of speech is a great thing indeed. I don’t think you have any power at all, as long as one has eyes to see.

But hey, everybody has got to earn a living right? Keep beating the drum.

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The best known Zec ASIC Miner 840K 2650W at .008 cents per KWh electric consumption lose money at 30.24 per coin.
They’ll probably help buying to keep the price up to at least 35 per coin.

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This is your opportunity to buy at 30 dollars oer coin.
I think we will have a good Altcoin summer.
However, there could be a front-run by the Whales before March 18, price will pump.

This is false. I’ve previously stated that we have prioritized the sale other assets and protect our ZEC as much as possible. If you are going to make an assertion, check your facts. Not a good look.

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This is the biggest opportunity to get into Altcoins at these prices.

However, there could be a front-run pump or dump before March 18 or May 6. But it will be most likely a pump, then it will be Alt season bull market.

Interest rates needs to be cut otherwise people can no longer afford to pay bills.

Every drop to the ground of the RSI (circled in red) it is preparing for a higher price.

The market makers been delaying everything the whole time, waiting for something to happen in the world to give them a reason to dump crypto. It was so obvious.

I would also like to briefly emphasize how important the price of zcash really is for the entire community, but also what has really been lost.

Just take a look at the views, whoever is in denial is beyond help.

All assets digital or not, are generally driven by US monetary policy.
If life becomes hard due to high interest rates, eventually, Fed will cut rates to ease the pain.
If that happens ( if they cut interest rates) Alt coins will gain value. But first theyll all need to be oversold as indicated by the Lowest level of RSI.
All markets are driven by that reality, the US government monetary policy.

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word prioritize… thats not really a quantitative word… so maybe its a priority to sell other stuff… but in reality 80-90% of the funds sold are still ZEC instead of the illiquid competitors… i have a priority to get healthier this year… thats different from actually doing it

maybe stuff is different but nobody knows based on ECC transparency reports which are 2 quarters delayed no surprise by the delays around here obviously

if youre telling us stuff thats not publicly available Josh, thanks! but frankly id rather have transparency reports available to give everyone the same evidence that the ZEC holdings are being treated differently now that the ship is sinking over here

again… lets just deal with transparency reports where everyone can look at the same facts instead of having to trust what the CEO wakes up and posts in the forum on a random Monday

Opened this thread
Everyone crying and moaning about price
Buys initiated
Couldn’t be easier

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10 am New York time reversal is reversal enough for me. I got some at 28 per coin. Im already in profits.

My trading style.

When I see a strong move to the downside (a long squeeze or short move), I keep buying in levels when it reaches the lowest RSI and the lower it goes the more I buy.
This is a betting strategy I’ve developed modeled from the Martingale system.

The Martingale system is a betting or investing strategy that involves doubling the size of a bet after each loss. The goal is to eventually win a bet large enough to recoup all previous losses and earn a profit.
The Martingale system was popular in 18th century France.
French mathematician Paul Pierre Levy introduced the Martingale system to probability theory in the 20th century.

Rationale why I trade this way:
Because when they “Short” the market, they sell first and a lot of it. But they are required to buy after.
And when they buy, or when they fill that requirement to buy, I buy along with them.
Call it a dead cat bounce, but it is a bounce never the less. This time, I made 18% in 1 day.


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ZEC/BTC -->0.0003289
1 BTC= 3000 ZEC.

First we lost the miners for poor choices.
Then we got the early funds recipients dumping for years. Then we lost the enthusiasts with broken wallets and poor UX, after that we created overcomplicated governance mechanisms and rent seekers positions (ZF, I am looking at you.).

Now that we are less than 500 people we have a working wallet and a nice hardware wallet. We probably lost 90% of the initial supporters. The price will sink even more leading to less resources. Welcome to a self-induced negative spiral.

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Could you please explain what overcomplicated governance mechanism you mean? Currently (since NU6) the block rewards go to ZCG and the lockbox (https://pro.zcash.ru/lockbox). So far there is no decision about the distribution mechanism of these funds.

I agree.
The final analysis that we need to do is CEX Zec holders and market makers versus miners.
In other words, producers (miners) versus retailers (CEX Zec holders and market makers).

CEX and Zcash Whales accumulated under $22 per coin to 80% of current total supply which is 15,884,029.
The new supply from miners will be devalued.

The coin will need to drop under $25 per coin unless there is significant improvement or hardfork to change all status quo.

We will lose miners.


This is the visualization of Josh´s zBloc proposal, which is still being discussed and not implemented. I agree that such a system has the risk to bring in more complexity.

On the other hand it includes Coinholder which IMO are currently underrepresented. I am in favor of giving a voice/decision making power to the people with “skin in the game”. This would add utility to ZEC.

Nothing is set in stone yet, hopefully we will see additional proposals and opinions. What do you think, how should the block rewards be distributed?

There seems to be a direct correlation of US monetary policy particularly to interest rates ( circled in green) with Zec price and other cryptos.

The coin accumulation and possible hoarding of Whales and CEX market makers and coin retailers before the last Halving at less than $25 per coin has 95% influence to Zec price.
So, accepting this fact, Zec price will need to pull back to this ground for the rest of this cycle to be healthy for all investors until FED cuts interest rates.

We should stop the dev fund starting from november 2025

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I agree. But there should be a coin burning mechanism first implimented.
After that, then TOTAL cut development fund FOR NOW and until FED monetary policy favors price action.

“Coin burn” in the sense of reducing the maximum quantity is absolutely the wrong way to go. If you all think that would increase the price, you’re wrong. If big whales want, they trade 5M coins for $5 instead of 21M on the market. By the way, there will still be enough zastoshis left per coin to trade low or dump the price.

Only one thing helps. You have to increase demand. More demand than selling pressure is the only thing that is economically beneficial.

But reducing something that is already low and then hoping that it will get better is pointless

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Ok. Whats the good way to increase demand?

Also CEX retailers make profit even if they sell at $25.0 per coin? Meaning they keep selling all the 15M coins in circulation at $25 per coin?
It will take a long time to sell all of it.

If we burn a lot of it instead its better, less coins better value.

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No, they can also sell 0.0001 Zec for $25

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Burn all budget for dev fund, burn all lock box coins. Less sellers, less coins for sale.
This will help Zec price not decline as much, well at least Zec price will be more stable 4 years from now after this halving.

Burning doesn’t reduce sell pressure, only supply. You can sell 1000, you can sell 1, you can sell 0.0001, etc…
Reducing desire to sell reduces sell pressure.
Increasing usage and demand increases buy pressure.

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That is only part of the truth.

The project needs project developers, a marketing department and a leader who controls and coordinates everything - these things cost money and are legitimate. Also, a community fund is great if it is managed properly, but under no circumstances should 4 people chosen from the community decide on it.

All these costs are necessary and would not be noticeable at all if the demand for zcash was high enough.

To think that increasing the quantity would drive up the price is pointless. Because even with 15,10 or 5 million Zec the situation would be the same. Too little demand.

Exactly, that’s what I wanted to point out. Even supply is of no use at all if there is no demand.

Imagine they all hold, ok and then? if there is no or very little demand. Nothing happens at all. Demand must be higher than the pressure to sell and if that’s the case, it doesn’t matter if the will to sell is there. That is all.

A lot of supply aquired at cheap price will keep selling at cheap value as long as the seller keep making profits.
Produced new coins if not burned, will be added to the existing 15M coins. More coins, less value.
Without FED quantitative easing, no new money to buy anything. People will use their money to buy food rather than Zec.

A closer look, every single cryptocurrency is completely worthless.
Even Bitcoin. Whenever I hear only “Bitcoin” or any other cryptocurreny.

Fiat is and was the engine for trade and all the developments we know and use today.
Bitcoin was created out of fiat. Without fiat as a means of payment, btc and every other cryptocurrency would be completely useless and would not exist at all.

A cryptocurrency can only truly exist as a complete replacement if every link in the chain accepts Zcash, from the creator/producer/merchant to the end customer and only if anyone is not forced to exchanged to fiat anywhere in the chain and that will never happen. The strength and use case of Zcash is its privacy, If everyone focuses on implementing Zcash as a shield in every transaction between merchant and customer, Zcash achieved its goal. Zcash as the only currency for the masses is pure wishful thinking and Bitcoin could never be that because it lacks privacy. Zcash needs fiat just like CBDCs. So focus exclusively on this use case, especially the developers in the Zcash ecosystem, and when they do that, the demand will automatically increase exorbitantly and everything else will take its course.That will ensure the existence of Zcash and possibly through zcash also the existence of the other cryptocurrencies.

For example, I would suggest that the ECC @joshs

in addition to zcash “for everyone”

also expands an area zcash “for companies”

and in this way implements the acceptance for transactions with zcash. But the focus is on something completely different. Namely the security of the entire company network, inventory management system and its infrastructure using zcash technology. Make Zcash a security solution for companies, which can ultimately even secure all transactions.

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Ill buy Zcash if RSI goes to 20.

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This is really fuxxed up shit.

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Benjamin Cowen spotted!
i can see his icon up there
also listening to him right now

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Dont trust the chart. :joy:

good thing about this chart, is a lot of room to grow.
its really painful to see that it doesn’t
what should occur to make it happen?
i think people do not care enough about privacy
in the past, TOR and privacy were much cooler

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Privacy is important for those that needs it, generally.
For porno stars, money is more important.
For the less fortunate, food is more important.

Everyone is different.

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Thnx!
yes
this is a necessity
its good we have the opportunity to give this gift to those who need it
i sometimes forget the most important function of Zcash!

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OMG, why did I come here. Next time in six months.

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I believe that Zcash has a future, I don’t know if I’m wrong, but I believe it’s worth it. I know that everyone here believes in the project, even if deep down I want profits, we all want profits. In my opinion, Zcash is still new, despite Zcash having existed for a few years. we are all pioneers. It would be interesting to have a study on the number of people who have Zcash. I believe that there are few people, so I believe that we are pioneers.

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i think we are going to have another leg down in altcoins soon
maybe even twice
and the Bitcoin dominance up to 65% - 70%
so be ready and strong =]

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waiting for it to reach a value that I want to buy, I want it to fall further. I want to lower my average price, but I hope it doesn’t drop too much. the pleasure of life is not knowing what will happen in the future.

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Yes, I want to see 16 for at less 60 days to buy a nice amount to shield.

doubt we ever see BTC dominance that high again cuz its too easy for new memecoins to launch

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i was sure that its impossible
but after this wick changed my mind

This is huge.

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This is not just about ZEC but i am starting to think that we wont get a big Alts season this cycle. Too many people are hyping for it but thats exactly the reason.
Just my amateur personal opinion.

im seeing the opposite sentiment. no alt season this time. this time is different. and that could be true. nobody knows.

We have been conditioned to think that the only use cases for crypto are braindead memecoins and Bitcoin, the crippled digital gold (used in a custodial way of course) :laughing:

The price is a consequence of the blockchain usage.
Let’s promote Zcash in LATAM, Africa, Europe…
The result is in this snapshot. Catastrophic.
But then when you ask for accountability and numbers the answer is : “It’s intangible, education is… bla bla BS”.
And we keep feeding these ultra-caloric storage people. All ok.
If a product is working people use it.

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Rumors say that Bitcoin is about to explode and that’s why Saylor is pumping so much money into BTC so that the bubble doesn’t burst, but he always needs more money. Rumors say that Saylor is probably also anonymously pumping up the BlackRock ETF to create the impression that there is a high demand for BTC in order to convince even more people to invest in Bitcoin. Just look at what bitcoin is used for, nothing, especially not as a means of payment as promised.

Lightning is also not used at all. The only thing bitcoin is used for is as a means of speculation.
Nobody uses bitcoin. Some wealthy individuals use bitcoin to advertising their own agenda and claim to buy or support bitcoin but then drop it. Btc just lies around, nothing more and for that you can take any shitcoin. In 2019 - 2021 you could buy more with bitcoin than today. Find the error. Today you can hardly find anything to buy with btc at all and if someone claims there are a lot of transactions, that is wash trading to keep the narrative going on and all these supposedly positive reports that bitcoin is being bought by large companies are all fake. You can also tell from this aggressive advertising in the media an internet how bad things are for bitcoin. They need new investors who will pump fresh money into this pyramid scheme before it bursts.

What I am saying is: don’t be fooled. I am convinced that Zcash’s time will come soon.

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Yes I suspect that many BTC maxis have never used Bitcoin to purchase anything otherwise they would know how painful it is to manage utxos (especially since coinjoins have completely disappeared).
But we all know by now that Bitcoin maxis are in reality Visa/Mastercard maxis in disguise.

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100% on spot… for some unfathomable reason lots of the old ZEC leaders seem laser focused on trying to cater to imaginary users in developing nations, rather than to crypto natives (where all the wealth is and where all the actual users are)… I feel like 2 months can’t go by without me having to read a story about the CEO’s anecedotal Syrian friend who likes Zcash… is this project for the world or is it just for the buddies of the Zcash project leadership?

PRICE SPECULATION: range breakout and we do okay this year… if we stay near all time lows then ZEC vs BTC is probably never gonna make a come back… BTC has corporations, endowments, CPAs, and sovereign funds… keeping pace is becoming more tenuous every month

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This is even true. :joy:

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very interesting times now
psychological pressure on altcoin holders is real
i have feelings of doubt about alt now , despite holding for years without doubts.
i wonder how other people feel, especially newer people in the space

I’m calm, I’m not getting shaken. I have a long-term vision. I plan to hold my Zcash until I am 65 years old.

If I sell any Zec it will be due to financial difficulties, in the future, in a few decades, if I retire and have no financial problems, I will leave my Zec as an inheritance.

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I see Zcash as a financial protection, I’ve already bought everything I could buy, even more than I should have. Now I will live my life. I will follow the project, but I will only buy Zcash again if the value drops considerably. Now it’s time to invest more in my professional and personal life, forget about investments, enjoy my family, let time pass.

I believe that Zcash will appreciate a lot, but that doesn’t matter. What will make me truly happy is living life and enjoying every moment.

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speculation on my part: I believe Zcash will surpass Bitcoin in value. I once dreamed that Zcash reached $24,000 per unit of Zcash. Let’s see if my dream comes true or if it was a nightmare.

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Exactly. Zcash is some kind of insurance. If you think the world is marching towards some kind of utopia you will probably not need it.
But if things turn ugly, it might help you big time.

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I somewhat already made up my mind that, Alts season wont come this cycle.

No bias but how come you think ZEC is insurance while the price is in bear market mode for past 3-4 years be side a little pop last year. Also every cycle top is getting lower and lower. Most people who are holding ZEC for long term 4 years plus are still in big loss or the profit has shrank 1/3 or less unless they caught at very bottom.

Has it crossed your mind that some of us may be building a position down here?

Haven’t lost anything yet, I mean isn’t a bottom formation built by those who are accumulating?

Just thought I would float the possibility by you… I cant really speak about those who have come before, except to say that they also probably found the concept to be interesting and worthy to some degree.

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Because ZEC has the potential to become the first and only truly antifragile asset (it is not there yet).
All the rest just can’t cut it (at least for P2P / B2B payments).

Also recency bias can be dangerous because it gives you all kind of wrong signals.

From Minute 3:30.

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I’m always a bit wary about the “it’s dead” calls, So even if I thought Bitcoin looked toppy here, there might be another leg up after all (or not who cares anyway).
Bitcoin becoming simply a gambler’s paradise is peak absurdity and we know how it ends.
Will it bring the whole crypto space with it is another question mark.

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https://zasta.de/ :thinking:

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ZEC has a high activity in Tradingview right now
its a good sign

this one i like

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Let’s face it, why would a Bitcoin whale invest in Zcash.

The Bitcoin Ponzi scheme is designed so that when the price of bitcoin falls, the price of altcoins falls even more than that of Bitcoin. This would be like if Porsche shares fell and all other automobile companies like BMW and VW not only fell with it, but much more. :laughing: Is that the case? No. This kind of nonsense only works in the crypto market and yes now people will explain why it’s normal that all other coins fall much more if bitcoin falls without using their brains. So up to this point, the crypto market is designed, or in other words, Bitcoin is designed so that all liquidity should flow into Bitcoin, and that’s exactly why other coins fall much more than Bitcoin when it falls so that you don’t get the idea to invest in something else.

So what would happen if a large group of whales sold bitcoin to invest in zcash?

The moment this group starts selling their bitcoins to buy zcash, they would reduce their capital because btc falls and zcash even more, but that’s not all, the group that still owns buitcoin could always dump the bitcoin price to cause even greater financial damage to the other group.
So long story short, as long as zcash does not free itself from the clutches of bitcoin, preferably from the central exchanges, there is no justification for large or big amounts of capital to flow into zcash.

This entire ponzi scam is designed for bitcoin. The altcoins only serve to bring capital into the crypto market so that this capital can be absorbed by the bitcoin whales to continue filling their bubble.

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I think you may want to consult some charts before you dig the hole any deeper.

I was just noticing yesterday that ZEC was down only 3-4% when BTC was down over 8%.

Additionally it should be noted that ZEC has recovered back to recent levels while BTC and ETH continue to suffer outflows.

Anyone with any time spent analyzing charts or price action can notice these divergences. They are bullish indicators of underlying support and/or demand.

There is much more to say about positive attributes of this project, but that can wait, I just wanted to comment on your POV of a declining market sinks all small boats.

Heck, I always peruse the up lists on down days, even the those down much less then the general market leaders for ideas and well supported issues. I really believe most crypto projects are suspect, just because I can’t really get my head around what they actually do.

Back in the early days of the internet (dot.com bust days) if you had a .com site you were some kind of guru and had valuations that were insane. The crypto markets remind me of those times.
Selection is key to finding the gems in the rough… In case you were wondering, “Yes” that why I am here.

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the RSI trend continues

Another new month, have you given up on buying yet?

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$26 per coin and miners should break even. At $27, miners make money.
Id buy at $27 per coin and no need for further developments or workers getting paid. Its good enough to have that shielded wallet finally made after 8 years.
If price is at $27, all miners are paid for their work, we can just run Zec like a shielded stable coin and thats fair.

Its smart choice not to buy it.

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Zec has bottomed and will be 220 by June. I will come back to this post later.

I think hitting $100 would be a miracle at this point, it’s not going to happen.

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Hello

Zksnarks still Not very wanted…


Soon privacy issue Will rose

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hey zaylor, you are behind schedule :slight_smile:

I agree and it proves that every cycle top is getting lower and lower. Doesnt matter who believes in ZEC, thats the fact.

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Zcash price is rising. I believe it is because of the low chance of being delisted from binance. there is a risk of being delisted, but it is almost zero.

Whats the current ranking on Binance ? I cant see it coz i am in Aus.

Maybe…. Or it could be the following:

On March 20, 2025, Coinbase International Exchange announced the upcoming addition of perpetual futures markets for Akash Network (AKT), Zcash (ZEC), and Moonwell (WELL), with trading set to commence on or after 9:30 am UTC on March 27, 2025 (Coinbase International Exchange, 2025). This announcement immediately influenced the market dynamics of these tokens. Within an hour of the announcement, AKT saw a price increase of 5.2%, moving from $4.32 to $4.55, as reported at 10:30 am UTC on March 20, 2025 (CoinGecko, 2025). Similarly, ZEC experienced a 3.8% surge from $32.10 to $33.32, while WELL rose by 4.7%, climbing from $0.095 to $0.0995 at the same timestamp (CoinGecko, 2025). This initial reaction reflects the market’s anticipation and positive sentiment towards the listing on a major exchange platform.

tense day. I took the opportunity to buy some Zec.

I just tried to withdraw the few Zecs I bought this morning, but Binance showed the option to receive a notification when they replenish the Binance wallet.

https://www.binance.com/en/network

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hello? 10 char

ZEC up 15% today :rocket:

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Anyone got some more o’ those 40 bucks Zikash coins?

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I expect pretty much everything to outperform Bitcoin in the future.
I truly wonder how a number goes up cult behaves in a number goes down environment, meat grinder style. Does lightning still fixes it? :joy:

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this doesnt make any sense to me lmfao… BTC is the only crypto thats truly mainstream and now has passive ETF inflows to constantly push up demand for coins. I tend to think BTC upside slowly dampens compared to old cycles like 2013 or 2017… but that said its still gonna be a dominant tech investment. nobody really cares about usability stuff like lightning, BTC isnt designed to be used its designed to be bought and held as a hard asset investment.

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That’s the point, secular bull markets die on universally good news so everyone gets trapped.
Whether Bitcoin double tops here or tries one push higher for a Head & Shoulders doesn’t change the outcome. In my opinion, the dry bleeding will last years and years. And there’s probably no coming back from that level of greed and hubris.

Then you have the usual signs, for example JPMorgan telling you subtlety that they want you to be their exit liquidity:

Price is variable so lets look at the “shielded marketcap” and zoom out. I take the weekly closing price and multiple by our shielded supply we gather from zebrad each week. This is 7 months of data :bar_chart:.

Since NU6 we are headed up only. Where will this weeks price close at?

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its great to seeing more shielding but its actually also really sad to see that shielding has no correlation… or possibly worse a negative correlation on price

im pretty confident of the exact opposite… money is going to try bleed into BTC more and more through generic tech ETFS, RIAs, all kinds of other mom and pap institutions. BTC is likely to continue to outperform alts

Shielding pool growth recently has largely been due to Orchard and auto shielding.

I think there will be a positive correlation in the growth of the spending of shielded funds (as it will directly increase demand for shielded ZEC). Let’s see how many other merchants quickly follow NYM by integrating the new BTCPayServer plugin to accept shielded ZEC and how many more users start spending shielded ZEC.

People are always very confident around tops. Just saying…

I don’t know who that is, but for sure an absolute legend:

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/07/18/satoshi-era-bitcoin-whale-moves-final-48b-to-galaxy-digital-likely-prepping-sale

So you can be a Bitcoiner, not talk about NAV premiums or BTC treasury companies all day long and have some lucidity left. That’s encouraging :laughing:

ZEC has been below $100 for over 1100 days, how much have you accumulated?

Triple digit ZEC is a limited time offer, bless the holders. :shield: :hot_pepper:

Have fun out there :zebra:

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With ECC now in financial silent mode i’m not feeling great about the future price of ZEC… theyve sitting on like 65k coins and have never showed much respect to helping ZEC increase in value… now only god knows what sort of hedging theyll be up to amongst the Starkware and Agoric coins vs their ZEC bags and that hefty debt to Zooko’s (?) adjacent LLC named Least Authority

what are you talking about?

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Just read this and laughed. I was thinking the same thing. I yawn when folks go “conspiracy theory” on ECC. ECC needs space to keep doing exactly what they are doing.

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we are tagging the all time low of 0.0003 BTC again… transactions on the network are somewhere around 1 per minute.

and yet…

well, the time has come for the ending of the speculative fervor and misallocation by nation states and banks into generally useless technologies. many fortunes have been made and now many fortures must be lost.

sure a lot of things have been learned through building and the public has benefited by the introduction of consumer ppk. while it may seem that innovation has made coordination of resources easier, certain mental humps have not been able to be overcome to allow for meaningful benefits to real world improvements.

financial engineering has only accelerated and has gone from a contact sport to one of spectacle that is earily familiar to James Caan fans of the cult classic Rollerball. bitcoin has not broght freedom but only a readiness and hype to be surveiled. etherium has brought nothing but fraud and the culture of pretend and extend to accounting culture. misinformation prop techniques is the new jazz.

so i say to you, what of after the crash? when the Tom Lees of CNBC boomer media are exposed and the mood sours.

zcash must continue to try to build guardrails to see useful privacy tools developed. we cannot give into the cyber gulag for inflated chits on transparent ledgers captured by pump and dump devs and their financeers.

what will we do after the crash?

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:eyes:

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I was just looking at this. I confess that I’m happy to see the price rising, but I’m also sad because I’m in a period where I can’t buy Zcash (I’m in a financial bind, with many unscheduled expenses). I believe that much of this rise is due to the fact that Zcash is no longer being monitored by Binance, in addition to the effect of the Zcash scarcity due to having. I didn’t expect this moment so soon; I wasn’t able to take full advantage of this period when prices were stagnant.

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long live zcash.

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I think this is the perfect thread to share this in: With ZEC’s new price and the well-deserved excitement surrounding it, we’re going to see a lot of newcomers joining our forums and community. It’s important that we keep our amazing community spirit alive and welcome them with open arms, no matter what background or community they’re coming from.

If you’re new and reading this, the “Price Speculation” title might have drawn you here, but remember that OUR value comes from great community and brilliant engineering. That’s our true superpower!

Welcome to the family, fellow Zcasher!

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Whoooowwwww……….

What the

I was doing so good not checking coingecko every day

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat is happening?

I feel so sad to have tested CrossPay over the last couple of days :joy:

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I see more Bitcoin as insurance against common sense… But who knows, maybe BTC maxis can hang out later with Blackberry and Xerox maxis.

long live zcash. the giant has woken up.

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This day could be marked by the crosspay of thousands of dollars, as well as the pizza that was bought with Bitcoin.

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Jokes aside, we’re happy with the price evolution, but the most important thing is the fundamentals. The price fluctuates, but security and stability lie in the fundamentals. Zcash is doing well, we’re evolving, we’ll soon have a POS, we’re innovating with Zashi, CrossPay, we have good wallets like Zashi, YWallet, Zingo, among others, plus the Keystone hardware wallet, the evolution of Zebra, among many other good things and significant developments. The price of Zcash is just a detail, which obviously motivates and makes everyone happy, but it’s not the price that makes the project good; what makes the project good is the project’s fundamentals.

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All of that + we have private on-chain polling/voting with an evolving governance model.

How cool is that?

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Does anyone know what happened for the price to go up so fast? I was scared by all this movement.

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Who knows, but for sure there’s very little normality left in the fiat system at this point hence all the wild swings everywhere. In the background, the wheels seem to be coming off hard, so how long the global Potemkin village can keep its appearance remains to be seen. Be ready for anything and everything.

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yay

10 char

Weekly close for the record books. Wowza :zebra:

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I’m very happy. I hope my dream, which I’ve already shared on the forum, becomes a reality, and that many lives are transformed, that humility is preserved, and that no one becomes arrogant. May everyone live life and dedicate themselves to the most valuable thing that no amount of money can buy. I wish you peace, wisdom, calm, and positivity. I wish you family always with us. May the community be united, celebrating each achievement, and learning to evolve even further. I hope to be with you in this community for many, many years. Good health and peace to all. Long live Zcash.

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zcash towards twenty four thousand dollars…

https://www.ccn.com/education/crypto/cryptos-19-billion-liquidation-explained-trump-china-tariff-leverage-crash/

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I always expected this, I always believed in zcash, I still believe it will reach $24,000, but I am unprepared for such a high, I wanted more time to organize myself financially.

We were lucky to have taken advantage of the low price moments, but this is just the beginning. As time goes by, with the halving, the price will rise due to scarcity.

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I don’t want to be a Debbie Downer but I don’t really find fiat prices to be relevant.

What is better, ZEC price @ $100000 buying you 2 cups of coffee or ZEC @ $1 buying you 4 cups of coffee?

All very relative.

Always remember, everybody can become very wealthy in fiat terms:

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Shielded market cap has never closed this high on the weekly post NU6.

json love.

We are up huge from the Aug lows:

:zebra: :shield: :heart:

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What happens when 90% of ZEC is shielded?? Asking for a friend

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you guys creeped me out wanting screenshots so stopped posting but holy sh–

I paper handed most of my stack at 150 but that’s noooo problem. rocket ship! ZEC isn’t done I’m buying back in

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Let’s show the world what we’re all about :slight_smile:

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Just bought ZCASH I think it’s a hit.

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price action reminds me of when etherium went to $300 then plateaued at the end of 2017 (and then topped at $1400)

dont have the same ico ponzi dynamics at play but awakening as to encrypted-SoV, as they (wrongly**) say….

*who cares! have fun

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Gm! So where’s the Monero farewell party happening? We about to take the lead imminently…

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I’m scared about all this zcash appreciation, it’s too fast, it’s not even giving me a chance to move the coins to another Wallet to organize myself.

I’m very happy that I believed in zcash, but I’m scared about the market movement.

I will not sell my coins, I believe there is still a lot of room to go up, even if it goes up to 24000 dollars I will not sell everything, just enough to survive in case of financial emergency (job loss, debts, …). I hope to be able to remain anonymous, keep my life simple, evolve in my job and studies without needing to sell anything.

The pleasure of life is in the connections we make, in appreciating each moment, whether good or bad, in difficulties and achievements. Living is enjoying life, doing good, having a mission (helping, making a difference).

long live zcash.

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So close. Nature is healing.

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Love this!

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Hello, old friend.

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hello Jun 2017

short term - $300
mid term - $500
end-of-year - $835

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Short story:

Risen from the dead, Happy Halloween

:ghost: :jack_o_lantern:

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Good, nature has healed! Now I’m back to not caring about the price and looking forward to see private electronic cash actually used by people, that’s what success looks like at the end.

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That’s pretty much the opposite of ETF maxis mindset :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Heading towards $24,000? In my dream from 2021, I saw exactly that, the price going up. And I was scared. In my dream, up to $24,000, the price made stops before continuing (1000, 2000, 3000, 6000, 9000, 12000, 24000). I still believe it will reach $24,000. I don’t know why, but I’m anxious about this rise, just like in the dream. I feel like I need to stop looking at the charts and forget I have Zcash.

Same, just get outside and relax, market will do what the market will do.

Don’t fret about things you can’t control.

Also LoL

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I built this to help you myexitplan.app - it lets you interactively explore an exit that may make sense to you and remove anxiety. It also allows you to set a remaining unit amount for those that never want to sell (like me :slight_smile:)

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An exit to what exactly? Fiat is what gives me anxiety. I’m sorry but I haven’t received the memo yet from the Federal Reserve telling me if they are planning a deflationary collapse or an hyper stagflation.

And ultimately, if you are not leveraged and not in debt, it doesn’t matter since inflation breeds deflation and vice versa. In the end, fiat dies an horrible death and people that put their faith in it will unfortunately suffer tremendously.

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may make sense for you

That drop from 480 to 400 in couple of hours were brutal.

just remembered seeing this one. interesting.

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You can tell a lot about a community who’s token value is increasing to ATHs yet they aren’t posting a bunch of hype rockets :rocket::rocket::sparkles: memes here :laughing:

We have been in the trenches long enough to not take this for granted :wink:

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I’m avoiding finding out the value of Zcash; I’ve discovered I’m anxious. I know there’s no guarantee the value will stay high, but I have my hopes that one day, maybe not now, Zcash will reach $24,000. I confess I prefer the value to move more slowly and without emotion. I have until old age to contemplate the $24,000 of Zcash; I hope to be alive and in good health by then.

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Its much healthier imho :heart:

1 ZEC == 1 ZEC

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True, all the rest is noise.

1 fiat unit = whatever the fiat masters decide it should be to skim the most from you.

Cardano is the next big to surpass

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Wait that people living in China and Russia will start using shielded Zcash behind a VPN like Nym… massive capital drains.

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Zcash price had the whole world at obey.

sold 75% this week buying back in at 200 or maybe i am faking all you out with that lol i should buy at 500

THANK YOU all big contributors here we are here because of you @daira @str4d @nuttycom @conradoplg @pili @arya2 @emersonian @pacu @Autotunafish too many names wont let me tag more. put your zec ua somewhere so we can show appreciation thank you. cmon. you make a L1 so let’s throw appreciation your way. thank you for so many hard years dedicated not short sighted all this benefit is possible from your work :heart_eyes:

more shoutouts, jason, dismad, autotunafish, shawn, decentraldan, zancas&zingo, joshs, ruzcash, anyone ever on zcg etc etc, i hope you prosper forever and wish you fortune!!

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Another glorious day but strong resistance at low 700s. It would be double top and would be ugly if market can’t punch above this ceiling.

I think this explains the price rise of Zcash

LOL

Accumulation phase:

https://investors.leaptx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/cypherpunk-purchases-additional-18-million-zec-bringing-total

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I love that they are averaging up in their dca

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GP of Vaneck: “It’s always been Zcash for us”

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I believe Zcash is heavily undervalued due to regulatory pressure from the government; they don’t know how to handle Zcash and other privacy-related cryptocurrencies. The government wants to collect taxes, combat money laundering, and illicit activities, but they don’t know how to ensure traceability. In my view, this could be resolved by allowing conventional banks to accept cryptocurrency withdrawals and deposits, like an exchange, allowing them to buy or sell coins, requiring detailed declarations when someone moves amounts exceeding X dollars. This way, if a person who declares having X dollars moves more than they possess, it can be presumed that the person made a profit or is involved in some illicit activity.

I have seen that websites fee chart posted a few times now, I’m not sure their methodology is sound.

Average tx fee is 0.0002 = $0.10 @ $500

Number of tx yesterday = 5,935

5,935 x 0.10 = $593.50

So math isn’t mathing, unless they are counting DEX swaps volumes/fees?

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Hm, that’s disappointing. I had feeling that was a little too good to be true. I have deleted my original comment.

I’m curious how it works, would be good to be wrong though :winking_face_with_tongue:

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I am seeing Iceberg buy orders cleverly disguising large trades by splitting them into smaller limit orders, concealing the true size & these traders are taking high leverage short order positions

Then with the Accumulated iceberg buys they dump millions of Zcash on the market crashing the price and making millions on there shorts!!!

this is a crime and needs to stop.

I am immediately calling for Electric Coin Company to form a Taskforce

to gather this info and send to the government for investigation

Ignoring this will doom zcash

Better to contact the exchange you see this on if there is anything to be done about it. ZF/ECC don’t have any say in what exchanges do or don’t do.

The entire crypto market (not just Zcash) has whales that can affect the price.

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I love you guys, but sometimes we can be our own enemy :sweat_smile:

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wait until you see what happens when there’s news that radbro is in charge :rocket:

interesting :thinking:

Response from Market:

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It’s in a weird spot now. Zashi was an amazing wallet but the price has been resilient. From what I’ve seen, really need a few weeks for things to sink in after the initial bounce off the sell off.

The bear market is here, even though ZEC is still up 7x over the past year. If you have conviction, this is the time to accumulate. Set up automation for dollar-cost averaging. Don’t look at the price for at least a year. Don’t trade, and don’t use leverage. When you invest in a single asset as opposed to a broad index fund, you should make sure that your position size isn’t too large.

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Yes. In this day and age, it’s a fool’s errand.

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