Radical “to the moon” thread

what are you talking about. even on half-dead bitfinex standart squeeze catching walls are larger then that. market is dead.) funny thing is, i could throw like 20btc in zec to get to the rear end of top200 richlist now. seems like killer deal, but i personally see no point while market stays like that for everything except bitcoin and any zcash team motions have no reflection on price. this is very different to 2017 and 2018 and there are some different assumptions where this gonna end.

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here’s the main difference between bitfinex, and kraken.

and both have peanuts volume, compared to even current supply and mcap, let alone marketcap of hype days.)

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think we’re in agreement here.

btw you know what may be the only real reason of price increase in may-june, along with btc?
Bitmain Antminer Z11 Apr 2019
Innosilicon A9++ ZMaster May 2019

not even zcon1 event.)

think it’s time to start taking this ZIP a little more seriously. would be willing to bet if zooko posted this ZIP on twitter like the PoS ZIP - exchange rates would increase; even if nothing ever came of this ZIP - markets would probably view it positively people are interested in killing gross inflation. MMs, and miners are taking full advantage of zcash inflation; whilst everyone else takes it on the chin (including ECC)

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all that being said, zcash slipped through $44 for a minute, but technically we’re still defending support. thinking zcash still enters recovery at some point in september, and legs-up in october. MMs just playing annoying games. too bad more people don’t have access to my crystal ball ^.^

think i’m actually more interested in the reaction this ZIP receives on twitter. twitter b& my large accounts for typing too much truth, so i no longer have much reach on the platform.

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doesnt matter much. if founder and team really need community (sic) advice about future changes of econ model of coin, not some technical improvements proposals, and its not some kind of formal advisory process - it means that they are completely disconnected from market and coin economy, and coin is doomed. and all their social activity is just for fun and mocking holders, and dev fund drama is just a punchline part, because it wouldnt matter how large cut will be and what spending model will be chosen, if they arent in touch with coin market. or they are living in some ivory tower. i’d like to be proven wrong.


WTF …dash gets a USD pair

what did y’all do to piss coinbase off so much @zooko @joshs @acityinohio ??

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Go on, short ZEC… if you dare…

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I smell conspiracy 20 char

Yeah, I’m done with them.


Number go up… :slight_smile: (20 chars)

Does anyone know the difference between Halo and MSFT’s research - they did this last year… I cant find the paper now for the life of me.

This is dated this year… I am sure I read it last year. ah well. it is called spartan.

What do you mean you cant find the paper its right there in the link you posted. Just click on PDF link. Or even better I will post a direct link.

No, I mean Microsoft/spartan had done this before. I didn’t see the point in posting the pdf. the summary is enough.(they had already created a trustless setup)

Halo references that paper twice. once to say how they are not going to use that method because the curves get too big, and another time which is a little more abstract.

So I am not sure how much of what was used in Halo that came from Spartan. My maths is not good enough. I understand the words, I just cant compare the differences.

edit : ah I just realised, that I found the paper and updated the post before the edit timer kicked in so it doesn’t look like I edited it

Ah I see where the confusion was. Anyway the math is hard to understand because one needs to have some background in this particular kind of math. I myself can understand all the symbols and formulas, but lack the background knowledge in order to give a proper response. Naturally the team is very busy working on implementing this so they might not have the time to comment on the forum.

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aye, hopefully busy with all the proposals I submitted today heh. seriously tho. I got a pm about halo a few days ago, but wasn’t in a position to look it up. This was the first I saw of it. Have since found the right thread and asked over there.

I kind of understand how spartan works. (some smart people I know explained it to me, we might use it in a project) so I am pretty interested in how this differs. Im going to go back over that halo paper with some graph paper. heh.