Suprnova's ZCash Pool zec.suprnova.cc

@ocminer Can you help mi with my address and mining with account?

Well thanks for posting in this thread if you dislike suprnova so much :slight_smile:

Let me clear up some things:

Block luck is not bad at all check this tab in the middle:

https://zec.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks

The Luck for the past 12 month is 93% - so 7 % better than expected which would be 100% :slight_smile: Last week was 82 %, Last seven days 86% and yesterday even below 80% - I’m unsure where you see that unlucky rounds then.

The hashrate is an average of your hashrate displayed on the dashboard, that means that it’s an average of your VALID shares over a certain amount of time - your dashboard calculates all shares and therfore might flucutate a little. At the end it doesn’t matter - it’s the payment that counts.

click bait for donators ? Hmm i’m unsure where you saw that :slight_smile:

You don’t have to donate anything, you can set fee and donation to 0%.

MPOS is a well maintained and well documented platform for pool software since years. Many other platforms are using MPOS as well, just check the URL’s of some pools (:-)) and you’ll see that MANY other pools use code based on MPOS and they just templated other themes over the frontend. Since I comply to the rules of free software, I don’t simply remove the tag at the bottom of the page - the founder of MPOS should get their credits - why not… Other pools simply remove that and claim everything was written by themselves… Do you believe that ? :slight_smile: Suprnova now exists for quite some time and most of the code IS actually tailor-made… Just compare the standard MPOS theme vs Suprnova theme… It’s not in the github repo :wink:

I’m sorry but you didn’t understand how PPLNS and Prop works…

Proportional is the worst case for every pool you can mine in as you can “steal” a big amount of the cake by using a service like Nicehash and “pump” lots of shares into the pool until the round estimate reaches a certain point - let’s say 50% … In a Prop pool, there are bots and scripts which are specialized in “pumping” lots of shares into a round until it hits 50% and then suddenly stop hashing at all. If the pool is lucky and hits a block in that time, the pool hopper/pumper gets 90% of the block whilst 10% stays for the rest of the miners - this is a common thing on most Prop pools where nicehash supports the algo - this also was the thing which made me decide to switch to PPLNS payout.

So lets say Prop only “looks” at the Shares for the current round.

PPLNS means that the Pool looks over the shares for a certain amount of rounds… For example 10 rounds… So the pool doesn’t pay the actual round based on the current “cake pies” but looks at the last 10 rounds as a whole, big cake and then pays to the miner accordingly. For pool hoppers/pumpers this is uninteresting as you’ll always have some long rounds in between when you’re mining over 10 rounds - so here the pool hoppers/pumpers suddenly have the same sharecount as “normal” miners as they hop out of the round before it hits more than 50%…

PPLNS is the fairest and best payout scheme for miners.

And sorry - all the rest about pool admins are mining too is just pure BS - of course i’m mining too but I don’t have any advantage over other miners as i’m just a “regular” miner on the pool and I get paid exactly in the same way the others do.

Best thing is: Compare your payments for 24h and maybe 48h and then 72h over the pools - it has been done several times before - and then tell me where you’ve earned more. If you’ve really earned more somewhere else I’ll be glad rethink.

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Thank you for taking the time post such a thorough response. While I don’t currently use Suprnova, I have in the past and the only real issue I found was the dashboard is indeed a little annoying.

nothing against suprnova, I wanted to give my extended opinion, witch remains an opinion. Just thoughts and not real facts.

My bad, talking about past experience, I just got back to suprnova with lbry, and got the same feeling as last time, thats why I open my mouth about it, sorry for misleading. I am wrong about the luck factor

Why put “You are mining at 1% pool fee and you are not donating”. They are ltterally two different things.
On the top of the dashboard you get this message, you’ve hyperlinked the word donating, so the purpose of that sentence is to go to the donating section. This is click bait. Take the link out and it’'s not click bait, it’s just a fact.
I’ll share all usabilityhub.com stats directly here to let you know what medium user thinks about this sentence.

I believe Prop and PPS are different, right? If you get payed per share those attack shouldn’t be possible, am I wrong?

I understand how it works and I wanted to explain it in the most simpliest way and failed miserably, I understand the importance of long rounds in this reward system: I absolutly didn’t say that you earn less and with my personal experience I can garantee that PPLNS pays more in the long run, and that is what count’s for us miners.

What I wanted to make clear is what the author wrote:

Short answer: No. As a pool operator it doesn’t matter at all which reward system is used. I expect rounds to become a bit longer after PPLNS is activated, as the pool hoppers will start to avoid the Pool. Thus revenues for me will be lower.

To make it as breif as possible, why would any pool owner switch reward system if not for a better profit?
This is the point I wanted to focus on.

Owning the system doesn’t make you pay any fee (even if you do pay it, you pay it to yourself), so there is already 1 advantage. In any case, even if you did have any sort of advantage we could never know. (GENERAL TALKING, not about YOU in person).

I absolutly agree.

Respectfully, I disagree. Click bait is when you click on something expecting one thing but getting something else. The link is clear in it’s description and it takes you to the account page where you can activate donations if you like. So no, it’s not click bait. The site is showing you the status of the mining fee you’re paying and also the amount you’re donating with an easy way to get to where you can change that. Should you choose to do so.

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With all respect: this is your opinion.
Here is the meaning of Clickbait - Wikipedia

Clickbait is a pejorative term for web content whose main goal is to get users to click on a link to go to a certain webpage

If you’re going to quote, at least do so in it’s entirety, Context matters.

Clickbait is a pejorative term for web content whose main goal is to get users to click on a link to go to a certain webpage. Clickbait headlines typically aim to exploit the “curiosity gap”, providing just enough information to make readers curious, but not enough to satisfy their curiosity without clicking through to the linked content.

Emphasis my own. There’s nothing curious about the word donation in this context. It’s pretty clear exactly what the word means and anyone who’s deductive skills are worth anything would know that clicking on that link would bring you to a place to either donate or learn more about it.

I also don’t recall claiming this was anything more than my opinion. Just as this is yours. I simply disagree.

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Hey,
I stopped with nanopool because my estimated earning was TOO LOW after a correct week.
I asked support “whats going on?” and I switched to ethermine now my estimated earning is more than correct
I don’t care about story of luck or hashing power if something go wrong I move

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Pools estimated earnings are often incorrect. The best way to know how much you’re making is to mine for 3 days to a week then average the total out per day.

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24/7 twenty chars :slightly_smiling_face:
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Suprnova started to cut my gains today. In the last few days I was having pretty inconsistent gains/hour. Today I had every few hours with 0.00000000, my miner is working perfectly because I changed to flypool and voilà everything is fine now

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Maybe there wasn’t a block found during that time?

Suprnova is working good for me, and i haven’t had an issue

Anything going on with the pool right now?

I’ve been using Suprnova for a couple of weeks, and it’s been good, stats aren’t accurate, but over the past 2-3 days things don’t seem to be working that well.

Starting about 3 days ago the stats went completely out of whack, that’s kind of normal, except that the pool seems to be doing way more work than is required. There’s a discrepancy between “Round Progress” and the actual luck once the block is found. For example, I see often the round progress might be over 300%, but then when the block solves the actual luck is listed at much less, say 100-200% or so.

Current block is at 7 hours 30 minutes, seems way too long for the hash rate on the pool.

24 hour earnings have dropped from stable at ~0.3 down to 0.1 over the past 3 days.

I get there’s variance, but it seems strange that all the statistics went completely nuts, then it’s come right, and now it’s really stuck on this block.

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I refuse to use Suprnova again after I had several hours without payments last week. Use Flypool or Nanopool instead.

edit: Flypool gives me the exact amount whattomine gives as estimate, never less, sometimes more. I read that Nanopool can give more than Flypool but its daily payment is not consistent.

There was a sophisticated DDoS over the last day where lots of invalid shares where sent resulting in a large database table with lots of “trash” - I’m filtering the data currently and everything will be fine in a few moments again.

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Thanks for the update… appreciate it.

I’ve cancelled The fee for the next days on Suprnova completely, it’s now 0% fee

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Unable to login: Account locked. Please Check your Email for instructions to unlock.
but i dont have recived the mail
please check 00rodrigooliveira@gmail.com

I also got the info: Failed to update your account: Address is already in use.

Can you help me please?