When is z-addr on mobile going to happen?

xalspaero · December 14, 2017, 9:59pm

IMO this is the highest priority issue for Zcash right now. Until it happens, Zcash on mobile is just BCH or LTC or something like that.

Currently you need a full node to do a shielded transaction. What about some kind of light client/wallet on mobile that facilitates a secure connection to your home server/node that does the actual transaction? The only other alternative is to have a full node on your phone, right? Something which is not necessarily crazy considering how much storage phones have these days wrt to the current blockchain size.

Then there’s the political side too… if we want it on iOS, that requires Apple’s blessing. Anyone know if discussions about that have been going on?

xalspaero · December 15, 2017, 4:17am

hmm let me see if I can find anyone from apple to ask about it. and more generally their process around publishing crypto wallets on iOS.

den · December 15, 2017, 8:35am

These guys are working on it. first version for android only, but supporting z addresses.

github.com/ZcashFoundation/GrantProposals-2017Q4

Guarda Zcash light wallet

opened 07:54AM - 13 Sep 17 UTC

AndrewGuarda

wallet UX complete-submission awarded

**Guarda Wallet** team application for Zcash foundation grants 2017Q4 ## **…Motivation and overview** We are a group of blockchain enthusiasts with background in software development and product management. We have a distributed team from EU, Russia and Ukraine. At the moment we have experts from IT, fintech, blockchain, security, marketing, design, UI/UE. Recently we have united together to develop a project called Guarda. Mobile cryptocurrency wallet which would make using any cryptocurrency easy, accessible and secure. Our wallet for the first currency was launched this week in [Google Play](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.guarda.ethereum) Zcash is one of our favourite blockchains thanks to technological supremacy, great development team and clear value proposition. As a team of crypto enthusiasts we believe in anonymity as key feature of decentralized currencies and blockchain technology overall. Zcash already is in our development roadmap. However development of Zcash light wallet is yet an issue due to the lack of open source mobile light wallet implementations. ## **Technical approach** We are guided by several core principles: - Building trustless solutions. If customer wants to rely on other cryptocurrency node he\she can type in this information. - Multicurrency approach. We thoroughly choose best cryptocurrencies and willing to support them all. - Respect customers privacy. We do not require any KYC or customers data. No registration is required as well. - Never touch customers funds. The proposed wallet is a light wallet allowing customer manage his\her keys himself - Never touch fiat. Purchase of cryptocurrencies will be delivered in collaboration with professional payment gateways. In general the wallet consists of the following parts: - Server side node Blockchain community developed solution. Open-source and distributed free - Lightwallet library This allows you to work with the cryptocurrency blockchain, without the additional overhead of having to write your own integration code for the platform. Usually the library interacts with the server side node through JSON RPC. As we are applying for a grant we believe this part of our work should be open sourced and available for public on a royalty free basis. - GUI layer Customer experience oriented graphic user interface running on mobile operating system of the mobile phone. High level architecture can be described as follows: <img width="616" alt="hl arch" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/31130561/30365728-4efe5f1a-9871-11e7-8a73-ed2278e5433f.png"> Network HL architecture: <img width="279" alt="net hl arch" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/31130561/30365745-567e2fcc-9871-11e7-97f3-be6f860cb7bc.png"> We have three basic stages for the wallet implementation. - Everything starts from the own blockchain nodes deployment. We have own primary and backup nodes for the wallet support. In addition we offer a range of third party nodes that can be applied by user. We are using sophisticated proxy for the node balancing in order to get up-to-dated blockchain status. - The next step is mobile client library implementation. It is used by mobile wallet to manage transactions and abstract blockchain, security, cryptography layer from GUI developers. - The last stage is the design implementation of mobile application. We are thriving to use trendy and cozy interfaces in our wallets to provide best customer experience. We are developing light wallet which means that user private keys are always under the user control. The private keys are always on the customer device and managed only by user. The wallet signing a transaction on the device side and transmit the signed transaction over Internet using ssl to blockchain node. The Guarda wallet implemented functions are: - send coins - receive coins - exchange cryptocurrencies to zcash, - PIN code app protection To be implemented in following two months (before Zcash wallet to be released): - purchase zcash for the fiat . Our committed partners for card transactions and SEPA payments are available to be disclosed upon request from Grant Review Committee. - other node usage - mnemonic phrase - password encrypted keyfile ## **Team background and qualifications** - Paul S., CEO, has three years experience in blockchain, 10 years in fintech. Certified banking cards security and business expert. Launched over 6 successful projects within last three years. Paul interests are: cryptocurrency exchanges, wallets, smart contracts, oracles. - Ondrej H., product manager, has 15+ experience in IT product management. Has in the portfolio projects from mobile ads, SaaS enterprise solutions, high load IT solutions, mobile app development and production. - Vlad A., senior Android developer, 7+ years of mobile development - Valentin S., senior Android developer, 6+ years of mobile development - Alex N., senior iOS developer, 6+ years of mobile development - Roman L., senior backend developer, expert in blockchain, has 3+ years of experience for blockchain development, cryptocurrency mining, etc. ## **Evaluation plan** We have quite tiny and reasonable schedule for the wallet implementation. The distributed team with a variety range of professionals gives us ability to launch in the parallel main project phases: blockchain node deployment, mobile library and wallet GUI development. We are using agile approach with continuous delivery, so in any time of moment we are ready to present our progress and performance to the Grant Review Committee. ## **Security considerations** Security is our priority. The light wallet approach itself is our vision for the secured blockchain wallet. The customer private keys are the most important and sensitive aspect. We store keys in OS secure storage in an encrypted form. We are using additional product features to increase the product resistance for the attacks. The team has already implemented PIN-code for the wallet access, password keyfile encyption is expected by the middle of October. At the node side we are using network security tools, like a WAF with ML. ## **Schedule** We are estimated the whole zcash wallet duration as 11 weeks: - **1 week** hosting & node setup, UE - **2 week** node proxy, setup net security tools, mobile library, UI mock ups - **3 week** mobile library development, UI prototyping - **4 week** mobile library development, UI design - **5 week** mobile library development, mobile app implementation, UI design - **6 week** integration with third parties services, mobile app implementation - **7 week** mobile app implementation - **8 week** alfa release, QA, bug fixes, mobile app implementation - **9 week** QA, bug fixes, beta-release - **10-11 week** Project Risks worked ## **Budget and justification** We have estimated preliminary costs estimation for 60K USD for the project that will cover almost all issues. 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It’s supposed to take 3-4 months.

johnwisdom · December 15, 2017, 9:22am

Sapling update is going to happend Q3 2018, so Fall-Winter next year we are going to have some solid mobile apps. I believe z-addresses are going to be mandatory, I’ve read it here: https://github.com/ZcashFoundation/GrantProposals-2017Q4/files/1364373/CryptoLUX_Zcash_grant_proposal.pdf

belgarion84 · December 15, 2017, 12:35pm

Does anyone have any idea how this is going to impact hardware wallet storage? I keep all of my ZEC on a Trezor in t-addresses at the moment. Has there been any discussion you’ve seen about how this will be handled post-Sapling release? I will admit, I don’t have a good understanding regarding the scale of effort required to add this kind of support when the time is right.