The devs will care and if they go ahead with encryption the pools will have to follow.
And I do not understand why he done it.
It will reduce his profits.
Miner devs do not create stratum protocol specs. Pools do.
Fair, but they have to work together and the miner devs can force the hand of the stratum devs.
As to why he’s done it, I think it’s to level the playing field. The “solution” he offered is a simple hack and I’m 100% sure many people are already doing it.
It seems you do not understand it or at least I have very different understanding.
He leveled nothing.
Watch when somebody publicly strips fees from claymore miners the same way.
Then all new miners will be private and all small miners will be outcompeted.
Nice job.
Yes many people do it but since many people do not there at least chance that public miners can compete with private ones.
And pool and miner devs ‘working together’ is the last thing you should want.
lots of people strip fees from claymores miner and have for a long time already
lots of people discuss how to do it
claymore does get pissy sometimes but he doesnt run to mommy crying when someone cuts out his dev fee (like his message to me and others in zcash miner v.3 LOL)
as there are literally 1000’s and 1000’s of people who are happy and more than willing to pay the dev fee even if they can avoid it.
if optiminer is a cool guy he will realize this and come back to once again let us use his miner
if not, then he wont. who cares anyway when claymore just bought up 1/2 of california with his “public” dev fee earnings
optiminer will miss out on real money now - that is what he wants… fine with me… i dont have a problem paying claymore (or not if I dont want to)
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I think that if there exists one click solution to ‘devfee problem’ the situation will change.
Why is miners and pools working together a bad thing? Why shouldn’t there be an open, standardized protocol? And wouldn’t it be best if the dev fee was redirected at stratum level instead of being hard-coded in the miner?
yeah, well that guy was overcharging anyway, no one is going to pay 0.2 BTC for that fix when they dont know whats going to be top miner next week…
but its something you gotta deal with… we dont see gaming companies stop releasing games like doom cause they get cracked
or windows stop releasing windows cause its always cracked… they keep going as there are lots who are willing to pay for it… infact they hardly care about the hacking and cracking because of all those who are happy to pay.
hacking and cracking does help those (of us) who really can’t afford to always buy new expensive software anyway
Collusion between interested parties unrelated to miner.
Yea, it is good. I belive it. 
Collusion is if they do it in secret, but if all is done in an open manner it’s not much different from linux kernel devs talking to intel engineers for example
Whatever he was charging for non public solution is his problem.
And public solution is ours problem.
Sorry but I can’t look at this statement as anything but naive.
silentarmy will come out of silence again im sure anyway
A thread like this used to exist on the ethereum forum, though it got deleted before I could touch it, probably for a good reason.
Although I do agree with @Optiminer 's statement, I didn’t quite agree with his devfee rates. This pretty much led me to find a way to circumvent it.
I found the solution (similar to the shared one) after a couple hours of research and testing. Unlike someone I kept to myself and only asked privately if others were interested, in the fear of this exact situation.
Congratulations OP, your greed has led to optiminer pulling out of the public field, and what have you gained? Nothing if not less, since someone shared it for free.
Some things aren’t meant to go public.
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Except CM was always leagues ahead of Optiminer speedwise, has dozens of extra options, remote management, miner is more stable, and pretty much better in every way. He also brought it out when all the other miners were kinda junk.
15%, then 10% for a slower miner, less options, less stable, less features, less support, late to the party, yet still always trying to catch up is absurd. If Optiminer didn’t want people removing fee, he shouldn’t charge an outrageous fee. 2.5% is a lot more reasonable, and he will lower to 1% when someone else has a miner of comparable speed. Latest release still slower than CM, I get 200H easy on 480, so ~194 after fee, Optiminer says 185, though I have no experience with it.
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Optiminer’s displayed hash rate is after devfee, assuming 10%, 185H/s*1.111= actual miner speed
it should have been kept private and not shared, but you can see how some people need to even share the PM about it… so …
if that person did not post the topic about the PM a day or 2 ago, this guy probably would not have come out to openly share his hack.
it was easy to get around, so im not sure if we can really blame this guy or the people who didn’t want to keep it private and posted the topic about the PM … as at that point it was still private until the “PM” topic made it public - at that point it became public… “dont feed the trolls”
that forum topic about the PM got the snowball rolling…
by posting the PM in a topic, he only gave the hack more power and reason to post it publicaly.
the mods of this forum should have stepped in there, as it “should” be against forum ruiles to publically post PM’s. otherwise whats the point of sending a PM… if its not private
nevermind the derogatory comments in the title and comment itself, the post should have been removed for reposting a “private message”
theneogeo82 thought he was doing a good moral thing by informing people about it… yet in fact… the best thing to do would have been to ignore it. no knock against and no offense to neo
Everyone with a decent Linux iptables knowledge would have done that. Even CM’s miner can be manipulated like this. That’s not the point. I agree with Optiminer and his descission to remove the downloads, because it doesn’t matter what the DevFee is, what it matters is weather you agree with it or not which comes to the ultimate outcome → Use or No use the miner. If you found a way to remove the devfee → keep it to yourself. If you share the way…that’s OK but don’t expect this miner to get more updates(dev will remove it anyway), but to try to sell this shit even if you see that there is a license and practically illegal → you are an idiot!
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I know what you see is what you get, so the miner is faster than 185 (can anyone confirm this, stock clocks?). But even after you subtract Claymore fee, and then a bit for pool switch, it is faster. Optiminer being slower to user, with less features, stability, support, etc, it is obsurd the fee was so high.